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Current and former PhD students - is there a question you wish you'd asked your PhD supervisory team before starting?

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  • kimberley@ecoevo.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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    Current and former PhD students - is there a question you wish you'd asked your PhD supervisory team before starting?

    #PhD #Academia

    raoofphysics@scholar.socialR vegemitepumpkin@hachyderm.ioV timwardcam@c.imT mjr@masto.bikeM artemis201@mstdn.socialA 7 Replies Last reply
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      Current and former PhD students - is there a question you wish you'd asked your PhD supervisory team before starting?

      #PhD #Academia

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      @Kimberley “Is this a good idea?” “What struggles did you have during your PhD?”

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      • raoofphysics@scholar.socialR raoofphysics@scholar.social

        @Kimberley “Is this a good idea?” “What struggles did you have during your PhD?”

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        @RaoOfPhysics Haha that first one I ask myself every day (maybe hour!) since getting the offer!

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        • kimberley@ecoevo.socialK kimberley@ecoevo.social

          Current and former PhD students - is there a question you wish you'd asked your PhD supervisory team before starting?

          #PhD #Academia

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          @Kimberley If you're applying for a specific project that depends on a 3rd party to work: Did the supervising team discuss the project with that 3rd party, have a schedule for you to meet this 3rd party and how much time and involvement can you realistically expect from that 3rd party? (pretty specific, but had I asked this and received an honest answer, I would have thought again)

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          • kimberley@ecoevo.socialK kimberley@ecoevo.social

            @RaoOfPhysics Haha that first one I ask myself every day (maybe hour!) since getting the offer!

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            @Kimberley I hate to break it to you, but that might not change over the course of the PhD! Might still be very worth it, mind.

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            • raoofphysics@scholar.socialR raoofphysics@scholar.social

              @Kimberley I hate to break it to you, but that might not change over the course of the PhD! Might still be very worth it, mind.

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              @RaoOfPhysics Having had a professional career and run a business I’m starting to think wondering if something is a good idea is just part of doing anything (maybe that’s just me!)

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              • kimberley@ecoevo.socialK kimberley@ecoevo.social

                Current and former PhD students - is there a question you wish you'd asked your PhD supervisory team before starting?

                #PhD #Academia

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                @Kimberley Back in my day, one didn't seem to have to apply for a PhD place, I was just told that one was open to me (in the same institution where I was finishing my first degree), with X as supervisor.

                Then I was chatting to Y, another academic in the department. "Y'know, X's students don't usually end up with a PhD" he said.

                I was too politically naïve to understand what he was saying, and did nothing in response. I started the PhD course with X as supervisor and dropped out after a year.

                I realised some considerable time later that what Y was suggesting was that I should request a change of supervisor, presumably that Y should be my supervisor instead. But he couldn't say that explicitly - it would be unethical to poach someone else's student - it would have to look like my idea.

                So, to answer your question, I should have asked "can I have Y as my supervisor?"

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                • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                  @Kimberley Back in my day, one didn't seem to have to apply for a PhD place, I was just told that one was open to me (in the same institution where I was finishing my first degree), with X as supervisor.

                  Then I was chatting to Y, another academic in the department. "Y'know, X's students don't usually end up with a PhD" he said.

                  I was too politically naïve to understand what he was saying, and did nothing in response. I started the PhD course with X as supervisor and dropped out after a year.

                  I realised some considerable time later that what Y was suggesting was that I should request a change of supervisor, presumably that Y should be my supervisor instead. But he couldn't say that explicitly - it would be unethical to poach someone else's student - it would have to look like my idea.

                  So, to answer your question, I should have asked "can I have Y as my supervisor?"

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                  @TimWardCam that sounds like a nightmare! I used to do a research support role in a different university and there was a lot of that fake politeness, although the younger academics tended to be more forthright. Thankfully my primary supervisor does have PhD graduates

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                  • kimberley@ecoevo.socialK kimberley@ecoevo.social

                    Current and former PhD students - is there a question you wish you'd asked your PhD supervisory team before starting?

                    #PhD #Academia

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                    @Kimberley "Have you noticed that a recent medication change has stopped me forming new memories and I am currently incapable of learning anything so this is all a waste of everyone's time, money and opportunity?" but to be fair, my doctors should have spotted it first and it took them over a decade!

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                    • kimberley@ecoevo.socialK kimberley@ecoevo.social

                      Current and former PhD students - is there a question you wish you'd asked your PhD supervisory team before starting?

                      #PhD #Academia

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                      @Kimberley what are the unwritten expectations and allowances?

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                      • kimberley@ecoevo.socialK kimberley@ecoevo.social

                        Current and former PhD students - is there a question you wish you'd asked your PhD supervisory team before starting?

                        #PhD #Academia

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                        @Kimberley
                        How often do PhD students in this lab meet one on one with their supervisor?

                        Also, what proportion of students finish and how much time do they take; and how much better or worse is this compared to the science (or other) faculty at the university?

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                        • kimberley@ecoevo.socialK kimberley@ecoevo.social

                          Current and former PhD students - is there a question you wish you'd asked your PhD supervisory team before starting?

                          #PhD #Academia

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                          @Kimberley "do you plan to be here for the whole of my PhD?"

                          It worked out for me, but having my supervisor leave the country was a bit of a surprise.

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                            @Kimberley "do you plan to be here for the whole of my PhD?"

                            It worked out for me, but having my supervisor leave the country was a bit of a surprise.

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                            @dtl @Kimberley But sometimes that just happens. It is not necessarily planned.

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                            • mjr@masto.bikeM mjr@masto.bike

                              @Kimberley "Have you noticed that a recent medication change has stopped me forming new memories and I am currently incapable of learning anything so this is all a waste of everyone's time, money and opportunity?" but to be fair, my doctors should have spotted it first and it took them over a decade!

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                              @mjr Oh shit 😞

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                              • rocahontas@col.socialR rocahontas@col.social

                                @dtl @Kimberley But sometimes that just happens. It is not necessarily planned.

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                                @Rocahontas @Kimberley oh, that was exactly what happened. I in no way hold it against my superior.

                                I had a student approach me a few years ago to supervise them, but I couldn't at the time confirm I'd still be in the job, so I declined them.
                                They are doing well with another supervisor and I'm still in my position.

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