There is a kind of conspiracy theory that goes a little like this:
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There is a kind of conspiracy theory that goes a little like this:
A brilliant scientist makes a ground breaking discovery: free energy or maybe god-like medicine something that would help humanity. But, it would also disrupt existing power structures and markets so, they die mysteriously to keep the magical technology secret.
Then you get a list of every person tangentially related to science who died an untimely death.
@futurebird Meanwhile actual real life scientists offer solutions that could almost feel like they're close to that sort of thing by utilizing solar power/etc which threaten existing power structures and markets and so... they don't die mysteriously, they just get death threats from the people who were so quick to jump on board the other conspiracy theories and hated for trying to do something that was actually possible.
The conspiracy theorists love a thing that can't exist, but sure hate those darned close things that really do exist.
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There is a kind of conspiracy theory that goes a little like this:
A brilliant scientist makes a ground breaking discovery: free energy or maybe god-like medicine something that would help humanity. But, it would also disrupt existing power structures and markets so, they die mysteriously to keep the magical technology secret.
Then you get a list of every person tangentially related to science who died an untimely death.
@futurebird I mean this COULD happen, and MAY Have happened in the past ( I wouldnt be shocked honestly ). But the human mind always finds a way to solve a problem....I cant imagine in this kind of case that another person would "discover" such a thing.
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There is a kind of conspiracy theory that goes a little like this:
A brilliant scientist makes a ground breaking discovery: free energy or maybe god-like medicine something that would help humanity. But, it would also disrupt existing power structures and markets so, they die mysteriously to keep the magical technology secret.
Then you get a list of every person tangentially related to science who died an untimely death.
I don't find these kinds of theories credible. But it's not because of the motives, or even the idea that someone could get killed over such a thing. *That* all seems possible.
What I can't get on board with is the idea that keeping technology secret would be ... important. Markets, people stick with lesser solutions all of the time. And there is a kind of conspiracy to suppress it to keep existing profit and power structures in place. No secrets needed it is right in front of us.
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There is a kind of conspiracy theory that goes a little like this:
A brilliant scientist makes a ground breaking discovery: free energy or maybe god-like medicine something that would help humanity. But, it would also disrupt existing power structures and markets so, they die mysteriously to keep the magical technology secret.
Then you get a list of every person tangentially related to science who died an untimely death.
@futurebird Then you get a list of every person who died an untimely death. Like the cast and crew of _The Conqueror_—yes, a lot of them died of cancer, and they did film in Nevada, but looking at people of that age in that era they didn't have a significantly rate of cancer than the population as a whole.
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I don't find these kinds of theories credible. But it's not because of the motives, or even the idea that someone could get killed over such a thing. *That* all seems possible.
What I can't get on board with is the idea that keeping technology secret would be ... important. Markets, people stick with lesser solutions all of the time. And there is a kind of conspiracy to suppress it to keep existing profit and power structures in place. No secrets needed it is right in front of us.
This isn't as fun as secret alien technology and ghosts in the desert. It's exhausting. It's not glamorous spy stuff, it's your small town giving the data center a ten year tax holiday because they will "bring jobs to the area."
And you need to drag your bones down to the town hall to yell about or they'll cut the sports teams at the local HS to pay for it.
They bought your councilwoman a new car. Better bring that up.
FUN!
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I don't find these kinds of theories credible. But it's not because of the motives, or even the idea that someone could get killed over such a thing. *That* all seems possible.
What I can't get on board with is the idea that keeping technology secret would be ... important. Markets, people stick with lesser solutions all of the time. And there is a kind of conspiracy to suppress it to keep existing profit and power structures in place. No secrets needed it is right in front of us.
@futurebird Case in point: renewable energy.
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This isn't as fun as secret alien technology and ghosts in the desert. It's exhausting. It's not glamorous spy stuff, it's your small town giving the data center a ten year tax holiday because they will "bring jobs to the area."
And you need to drag your bones down to the town hall to yell about or they'll cut the sports teams at the local HS to pay for it.
They bought your councilwoman a new car. Better bring that up.
FUN!
@futurebird
I remember when this was said about hydrogen fuel technology in 1999. Meanwhile Dumbya was impressed by it during his illegal Presidency that he wanted the infrastructure in place (his "broken clock" moment).To this day it's only in California and Massachusetts.
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This isn't as fun as secret alien technology and ghosts in the desert. It's exhausting. It's not glamorous spy stuff, it's your small town giving the data center a ten year tax holiday because they will "bring jobs to the area."
And you need to drag your bones down to the town hall to yell about or they'll cut the sports teams at the local HS to pay for it.
They bought your councilwoman a new car. Better bring that up.
FUN!
@futurebird and the constant grind to keep going to the town halls (or else).
At least the people on the small towns is realizing that their utility bills will go up when the massive datacenter opens, and that not many jobs are created by it.
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This isn't as fun as secret alien technology and ghosts in the desert. It's exhausting. It's not glamorous spy stuff, it's your small town giving the data center a ten year tax holiday because they will "bring jobs to the area."
And you need to drag your bones down to the town hall to yell about or they'll cut the sports teams at the local HS to pay for it.
They bought your councilwoman a new car. Better bring that up.
FUN!
@futurebird Behind that is also the idea that worldchanging inventions are done by some genius guy in his garage and not by research teams with hundreds of members being funded in the open.
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I don't find these kinds of theories credible. But it's not because of the motives, or even the idea that someone could get killed over such a thing. *That* all seems possible.
What I can't get on board with is the idea that keeping technology secret would be ... important. Markets, people stick with lesser solutions all of the time. And there is a kind of conspiracy to suppress it to keep existing profit and power structures in place. No secrets needed it is right in front of us.
@futurebird Yeah, those crazy conspiracy theory versions are typically only told to justify supporting clearly quack science.
"We have to give Ivermectin a fair chance because it might be a break-out and the establishment is keeping it down." No, it's not a break-out. It was never a break-out. Smart people who know what they're doing knew it wouldn't work. The "anti-establishment" is just a bunch of grifters who should very much be kept down.
What does happen, though, is that brilliant ideas get killed because they come out of the mouths of a woman or a black people and the white dudes with decision making power at their company ignored them. That happens. All. The. Fucking. Time.
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I don't find these kinds of theories credible. But it's not because of the motives, or even the idea that someone could get killed over such a thing. *That* all seems possible.
What I can't get on board with is the idea that keeping technology secret would be ... important. Markets, people stick with lesser solutions all of the time. And there is a kind of conspiracy to suppress it to keep existing profit and power structures in place. No secrets needed it is right in front of us.
@futurebird Stanley Meyers, the modern “water powered car” guy, died of cardiovascular problems just a couple of years after having been ordered by a court to return his investors’ money.
The conspiracy enthusiasts I know still talk about him.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=o_lnd8Xw3TY
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fuel_cell -
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