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  3. Alberta's electoral list (names & addresses of every registered voter in the province) was posted publicly on the web by a pro-separation group who got it from the Republican Party of Alberta, an also-ran pro-separatist political party.

Alberta's electoral list (names & addresses of every registered voter in the province) was posted publicly on the web by a pro-separation group who got it from the Republican Party of Alberta, an also-ran pro-separatist political party.

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  • ameliasbrain@mstdn.caA This user is from outside of this forum
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    Alberta's electoral list (names & addresses of every registered voter in the province) was posted publicly on the web by a pro-separation group who got it from the Republican Party of Alberta, an also-ran pro-separatist political party.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/elections-alberta-electors-database-9.7182667

    I hope (though doubt) that the end result is to eliminate the practice of sharing electoral lists with political parties. There's no legitimate need for it. Parties can independently assess the eligibility of anyone who wants to become a party member. And when campaigning, it's not like they'll skip door-knocking just because an address is not on a list — there could still be a potential voter whose registration isn't up to date.

    And, too many small parties are staffed with people who don't have the training or desire to protect confidential government datasets.

    PS, how they identified the source: "Court heard that each electoral list legitimately released by Elections Alberta includes a certain number of fictitious — or 'salted' — names."

    #AbPoli

    anygould@kind.socialA mpjgregoire@cosocial.caM chigaze@cosocial.caC dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.orgD scribblersemporium@mastodon.worldS 5 Replies Last reply
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    • ameliasbrain@mstdn.caA ameliasbrain@mstdn.ca

      Alberta's electoral list (names & addresses of every registered voter in the province) was posted publicly on the web by a pro-separation group who got it from the Republican Party of Alberta, an also-ran pro-separatist political party.

      https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/elections-alberta-electors-database-9.7182667

      I hope (though doubt) that the end result is to eliminate the practice of sharing electoral lists with political parties. There's no legitimate need for it. Parties can independently assess the eligibility of anyone who wants to become a party member. And when campaigning, it's not like they'll skip door-knocking just because an address is not on a list — there could still be a potential voter whose registration isn't up to date.

      And, too many small parties are staffed with people who don't have the training or desire to protect confidential government datasets.

      PS, how they identified the source: "Court heard that each electoral list legitimately released by Elections Alberta includes a certain number of fictitious — or 'salted' — names."

      #AbPoli

      anygould@kind.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @AmeliasBrain An easy solution may be to have EA act as a portal - you want to mail everyone in your riding? Pay EA and they'll send it to everyone on their list.

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        @AmeliasBrain An easy solution may be to have EA act as a portal - you want to mail everyone in your riding? Pay EA and they'll send it to everyone on their list.

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        @anyGould Sure, but like with door knocking, it's not really necessary to use the list: you can just use Canada Post lists to send things to every address in a postal code, registered voter or not. You wouldn't get to personalize the name on your MLA Christmas card mailout, but that's it.

        The only legitimate use for the electoral list is to quickly verify someone's eligibility when they go to vote.

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        • ameliasbrain@mstdn.caA ameliasbrain@mstdn.ca

          Alberta's electoral list (names & addresses of every registered voter in the province) was posted publicly on the web by a pro-separation group who got it from the Republican Party of Alberta, an also-ran pro-separatist political party.

          https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/elections-alberta-electors-database-9.7182667

          I hope (though doubt) that the end result is to eliminate the practice of sharing electoral lists with political parties. There's no legitimate need for it. Parties can independently assess the eligibility of anyone who wants to become a party member. And when campaigning, it's not like they'll skip door-knocking just because an address is not on a list — there could still be a potential voter whose registration isn't up to date.

          And, too many small parties are staffed with people who don't have the training or desire to protect confidential government datasets.

          PS, how they identified the source: "Court heard that each electoral list legitimately released by Elections Alberta includes a certain number of fictitious — or 'salted' — names."

          #AbPoli

          mpjgregoire@cosocial.caM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @AmeliasBrain Sometimes the big parties don't even use the official list; they buy a list from marketing agencies instead.

          (Not a comforting thought, really.)

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          • ameliasbrain@mstdn.caA ameliasbrain@mstdn.ca

            Alberta's electoral list (names & addresses of every registered voter in the province) was posted publicly on the web by a pro-separation group who got it from the Republican Party of Alberta, an also-ran pro-separatist political party.

            https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/elections-alberta-electors-database-9.7182667

            I hope (though doubt) that the end result is to eliminate the practice of sharing electoral lists with political parties. There's no legitimate need for it. Parties can independently assess the eligibility of anyone who wants to become a party member. And when campaigning, it's not like they'll skip door-knocking just because an address is not on a list — there could still be a potential voter whose registration isn't up to date.

            And, too many small parties are staffed with people who don't have the training or desire to protect confidential government datasets.

            PS, how they identified the source: "Court heard that each electoral list legitimately released by Elections Alberta includes a certain number of fictitious — or 'salted' — names."

            #AbPoli

            chigaze@cosocial.caC This user is from outside of this forum
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            @AmeliasBrain So they effectively doxxed 2.9m people. I really hope this a criminal offence...

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            • ameliasbrain@mstdn.caA ameliasbrain@mstdn.ca

              Alberta's electoral list (names & addresses of every registered voter in the province) was posted publicly on the web by a pro-separation group who got it from the Republican Party of Alberta, an also-ran pro-separatist political party.

              https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/elections-alberta-electors-database-9.7182667

              I hope (though doubt) that the end result is to eliminate the practice of sharing electoral lists with political parties. There's no legitimate need for it. Parties can independently assess the eligibility of anyone who wants to become a party member. And when campaigning, it's not like they'll skip door-knocking just because an address is not on a list — there could still be a potential voter whose registration isn't up to date.

              And, too many small parties are staffed with people who don't have the training or desire to protect confidential government datasets.

              PS, how they identified the source: "Court heard that each electoral list legitimately released by Elections Alberta includes a certain number of fictitious — or 'salted' — names."

              #AbPoli

              dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @AmeliasBrain In a health democracy, the list of names on your ballot is going to have a higher percentage of crackpots than the general population - electoral politics is the kind of thing crackpots are naturally into.

              So maybe we shouldn't give the self-selecting crackpot group, information we consider sensitive and privacy-impacting.

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              • ameliasbrain@mstdn.caA ameliasbrain@mstdn.ca

                Alberta's electoral list (names & addresses of every registered voter in the province) was posted publicly on the web by a pro-separation group who got it from the Republican Party of Alberta, an also-ran pro-separatist political party.

                https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/elections-alberta-electors-database-9.7182667

                I hope (though doubt) that the end result is to eliminate the practice of sharing electoral lists with political parties. There's no legitimate need for it. Parties can independently assess the eligibility of anyone who wants to become a party member. And when campaigning, it's not like they'll skip door-knocking just because an address is not on a list — there could still be a potential voter whose registration isn't up to date.

                And, too many small parties are staffed with people who don't have the training or desire to protect confidential government datasets.

                PS, how they identified the source: "Court heard that each electoral list legitimately released by Elections Alberta includes a certain number of fictitious — or 'salted' — names."

                #AbPoli

                scribblersemporium@mastodon.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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                @AmeliasBrain

                If EA is anything like the AER, this will be massaged into a nothing burger by Saturday.

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                • scribblersemporium@mastodon.worldS scribblersemporium@mastodon.world

                  @AmeliasBrain

                  If EA is anything like the AER, this will be massaged into a nothing burger by Saturday.

                  ameliasbrain@mstdn.caA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @ScribblersEmporium Yeah. If the group doesn't fight the injunction & the web portal gets taken down quickly, they'll probably get away with slap on the wrist, don't do that again, minor fine to the party that leaked it.

                  I can't see an actual change to the legislation while the current political party is in power.

                  Or while any political party is in power, really.

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