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Hot Take: Predictive text suggestions have influenced human thinking with it's suggestions for years.

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    Hot Take: Predictive text suggestions have influenced human thinking with it's suggestions for years. Turns out, the AIs were programming us to see them as useful tools, rather than existential threats!
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      Hot Take: Predictive text suggestions have influenced human thinking with it's suggestions for years. Turns out, the AIs were programming us to see them as useful tools, rather than existential threats!
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      @blaise

      Okay, I am fine with disagreeing on topics. Let us keep this honest though. As predictive text solutions have been around for far longer than AI and does not have its roots in AI. Think Tree Sitter for instance. I would also not call a Science that has saved hundreds of millions of lives and increased the quality of so many more lives an existential threat.

      So many people today want to point out how unregulated corporations are using AI in an inappropriate way but fail to mention that the issue is unregulated corporations and not the technology (AI).

      I have worked with and on AI since the 80's, yes I am a new comer to an old science, long before artificial neural networks were a reality and were just a mathematical hypotheses yet to be implemented. I have seen AI grow in areas of Medicine, Driver Assistance (adaptive speed control, collision detection and warning systems to parallel parking) Traffic Control System and so much more.

      It is not a bad technology, it is being used poorly by unfettered capitalists that continue to go unregulated. Though people are not up in arms about the unregulated corporations misuse of one of our greatest technologies of the century, they are up in arms about the technology itself that they do not understand. I call it the Isaac Asimov syndrome (actually I just made that up).

      You are a great guy based on what I have heard from you and appear, from what I have seen, to be a committed engineer. Yet, I strongly disagree with your stated issues with AI as I find them misplaced. Fire has burned down cities and kept people alive by its warmth. We should not judge a technology by its misuse or by its success when use appropriately. We should judge it by its own virtues or lack of them. I am sorry to see that you do not appear to believe that.

      If something really needs fixing it is our policy of letting unfettered capitalism running amuk and our corporations having no realistic regulations.

      Have a Great Day!

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        @blaise

        Okay, I am fine with disagreeing on topics. Let us keep this honest though. As predictive text solutions have been around for far longer than AI and does not have its roots in AI. Think Tree Sitter for instance. I would also not call a Science that has saved hundreds of millions of lives and increased the quality of so many more lives an existential threat.

        So many people today want to point out how unregulated corporations are using AI in an inappropriate way but fail to mention that the issue is unregulated corporations and not the technology (AI).

        I have worked with and on AI since the 80's, yes I am a new comer to an old science, long before artificial neural networks were a reality and were just a mathematical hypotheses yet to be implemented. I have seen AI grow in areas of Medicine, Driver Assistance (adaptive speed control, collision detection and warning systems to parallel parking) Traffic Control System and so much more.

        It is not a bad technology, it is being used poorly by unfettered capitalists that continue to go unregulated. Though people are not up in arms about the unregulated corporations misuse of one of our greatest technologies of the century, they are up in arms about the technology itself that they do not understand. I call it the Isaac Asimov syndrome (actually I just made that up).

        You are a great guy based on what I have heard from you and appear, from what I have seen, to be a committed engineer. Yet, I strongly disagree with your stated issues with AI as I find them misplaced. Fire has burned down cities and kept people alive by its warmth. We should not judge a technology by its misuse or by its success when use appropriately. We should judge it by its own virtues or lack of them. I am sorry to see that you do not appear to believe that.

        If something really needs fixing it is our policy of letting unfettered capitalism running amuk and our corporations having no realistic regulations.

        Have a Great Day!

        blaise@friendica.rogueproject.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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        @unusnemo Well, a) it was in jest (you know, like there's an AI conspiracy, and they're controlling everything?), but OK? and b) you are incorrect.

        I too have worked with AI, and in particular neural network simulations, also since the 1980s. The alignment problem has not been solved, and if we go on this way, we will likely soon all succumb to one paperclip maximizer or other!

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          @unusnemo Well, a) it was in jest (you know, like there's an AI conspiracy, and they're controlling everything?), but OK? and b) you are incorrect.

          I too have worked with AI, and in particular neural network simulations, also since the 1980s. The alignment problem has not been solved, and if we go on this way, we will likely soon all succumb to one paperclip maximizer or other!

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          unusnemo@friendica.rogueproject.orgU This user is from outside of this forum
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          @blaise

          I agree to disagree.

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            @unusnemo Well, a) it was in jest (you know, like there's an AI conspiracy, and they're controlling everything?), but OK? and b) you are incorrect.

            I too have worked with AI, and in particular neural network simulations, also since the 1980s. The alignment problem has not been solved, and if we go on this way, we will likely soon all succumb to one paperclip maximizer or other!

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            unusnemo@friendica.rogueproject.orgU This user is from outside of this forum
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            @blaise

            Just curious, as you also developed AI solutions in the 80s, are you a proficient LISP programmer? I do not meet many LISP programmers these day 😉.

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