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FCC bans all non-us made IoT routers

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  • fuzzyfuzzyfungus@cyberplace.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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    fuzzyfuzzyfungus@cyberplace.social
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    @becomethewaifu @da_667 The absolute nonsense in the web UI and similar is even worse because it is more or less hardware agnostic(or could be). Bugs in wifi firmware blobs and things exist and aren't good; but at least there's a reason why the entire industry can't just use the same wifi blob that they've been polishing carefully for two decades. Web server brokenness is almost entirely pointless wheel-reinventing.

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    • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

      FCC bans all non-us made IoT routers

      dude not even Cisco makes their own shit here.

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      @da_667 the funniest thing is: this only applies to not-yet approved models. Importing & selling that same TP-Link WR841Nv7 from, idk, 2008 is still good. Because SeCuRiTy

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      • nyanbinary@infosec.exchangeN nyanbinary@infosec.exchange

        @da_667 the funniest thing is: this only applies to not-yet approved models. Importing & selling that same TP-Link WR841Nv7 from, idk, 2008 is still good. Because SeCuRiTy

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        @da_667 like not even kidding, if this does anything at all it is restricting the market on NEW routers (the ones that may still recieve patches) & drive up prices on these specifically, reducing probability of replacement

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        • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

          and even if you do slap that stupid fucking made in the USA badging on whatever dipshit IoT device, chips and software are still produced elsewhere. Bet me that they'll shove fuckin goahead webs http server or boa httpd on it, and it'll be just as shit as it was before.

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          @da_667 no way man, "we wrote our own http server. from scratch! we did it right, we swear."

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          • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

            and even if you do slap that stupid fucking made in the USA badging on whatever dipshit IoT device, chips and software are still produced elsewhere. Bet me that they'll shove fuckin goahead webs http server or boa httpd on it, and it'll be just as shit as it was before.

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            @da_667 every iot device's firmware is like 1998 high school c++ and it is infuriating

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            • reverseics@infosec.exchangeR reverseics@infosec.exchange

              @da_667 no way man, "we wrote our own http server. from scratch! we did it right, we swear."

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                @da_667 every iot device's firmware is like 1998 high school c++ and it is infuriating

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                @gsuberland its vomit-worthy, and there's no impetus to improve anything. Multiple generations of hardware can have the same vulnerability, and nobody gives a shit.

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                • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                  @gsuberland its vomit-worthy, and there's no impetus to improve anything. Multiple generations of hardware can have the same vulnerability, and nobody gives a shit.

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                  @da_667 yeah and they patch it and then release a new one and it has the same fucking bug class like AAAAAAAAAA WHY CAN'T THEY LEARN

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                    @da_667 yeah and they patch it and then release a new one and it has the same fucking bug class like AAAAAAAAAA WHY CAN'T THEY LEARN

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                    @da_667 also miserable support timelines on network appliances these days. it's so shit.

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                    • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                      FCC bans all non-us made IoT routers

                      dude not even Cisco makes their own shit here.

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                      @da_667

                      It's OK, we can just buy patriotic 'Murican Starlink terminals made in the good ol' U S of A by our favorite patriotic pal, Elon Musk.

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