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    "As long as my record stands in federal court, any American citizen can be held in prison or concentration camps without trial or hearing. I would like to see the government admit they were wrong and do something about it, so this will never happen again to any American citizen of any race, creed, or color." - Fred Korematsu

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    • anarchoninaanalyzes@social.treehouse.systemsA anarchoninaanalyzes@social.treehouse.systems

      "As long as my record stands in federal court, any American citizen can be held in prison or concentration camps without trial or hearing. I would like to see the government admit they were wrong and do something about it, so this will never happen again to any American citizen of any race, creed, or color." - Fred Korematsu

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      I think I've decided that I need to separate out "concentration camps" from the larger fascist mass deportation story, because given the sheer amount of funding for migrant cages provided by the GOP's recently passed, homicidal-class war reconciliation budget, I think it's very unlikely "Alligator Alcatraz" will be a one-off. As such I'm going to link my previous post about why the facility in Florida is definitely a concentration camp here, so we can reference it going forward.

      AnarchoNinaAnalyzes (@AnarchoNinaAnalyzes@treehouse.systems)

      I think there is a larger conversation to be had about the crass, ignorant, and dystopian "game show" style of fascism the Trump regime is installing in America; a situation perfectly exemplified by the emergency construction of a migrant concentration camp on an abandoned airfield in the Florida Everglades, affectionately marketed (with actual merchandise) as "Alligator Alcatraz." It says a lot about what lies at the rotting core of Trumpism that in the implementation of its fascist policies, the regime always finds a way to surpass satirists in Hollywood and the fever dreams of authors like Hunter S. Thompson, in terms of theatrical cruelty, open greed, and complete disregard for human decency. As such, I understand why the outrage in response to the construction and implementation of what amounts to a dollar store knock off version of torture prisons like CECOT, has been focused on the outrageous pageantry Downmarket Mussolini, Ronny DeSantis, and the American fascist movement are engaged in to cover up the fact that we've just build a domestic "Gitmo" and the guy running it is a former Bush War on Terror lawyer with a very checkered past on the subjects of human rights and torture. The reality however is that "Alligator Alcatrez" (that is the official name of the gulag) is very clearly a concentration camp, designed to torture migrants as part of a slow-motion ethnic cleansing project to whiten the demographics of the USA. Furthermore, the evidence that this is so goes far beyond Trump's obscene comments about alligators eating escaped migrants, as Florida Republicans have openly touted the idea that exposure to hurricanes might make migrants self-deport to avoid being sent there - which a responsible media would recognize as US politicians arguing "death by hurricane" is an acceptable punishment for the civil violation of being in the country without papers. In fact, this alarming idea is literally baked into the second half of the dungeon's name; Alcatraz was a maximum security federal prison ostensibly designed to house "the worst felons in America," while Alligator Alcatraz is a giant torture cage for brown people on the wrong side of an imaginary line - the conflation is intentional on the part of the fascist politicians behind this monstrous scheme. Given the clear intentions behind opening our very own concentration camp in the Florida Everglades, the men behind the plan, and their open statements about why Alligator Alcatraz was built, it shouldn't surprise anyone that we're already getting reports of widespread human rights violations out of the facility. https://www.commondreams.org/news/alligator-alcatraz-human-rights 'A Form of Torture': Detainees Allege Mistreatment at 'Alligator Alcatraz' "They're not respecting our human rights," one detainee told CBS News Miami during a phone interview. "We're human beings; we're not dogs. We're like rats in an experiment." "I don't know their motive for doing this, if it's a form of torture," he added. "A lot of us have our residency documents and we don't understand why we're here." Another inmate, the Cuban reggaeton artist Leamsy La Figura, said guards "only brought a meal once a day and it had maggots." "They never take off the lights for 24 hours," he claimed. "The mosquitoes are as big as elephants," and "there's no water to take a bath, it's been four days since I've taken a bath." A Colombian detainee said his mental health is breaking down. "I'm on the edge of losing my mind. I've gone three days without taking my medicine," he said. "It's impossible to sleep with this white light that's on all day." "They took the Bible I had and they said here there is no right to religion," the detainee added. "And my Bible is the one thing that keeps my faith, and now I'm losing my faith." So, let's be clear what we're talking about here. The fascist Florida government purposely built a concentration camp in the middle of a hurricane alley swamp, to facilitate the fascist Trump regime's ethnic cleansing project. And now, we're treating people who may be guilty of nothing more than a civil violation like War on Terror prisoners at Gitmo. We've had entire hearings about the effects of restricting access to food, shower facilities, and medicine because this is what our government did to suspected terrorists during the one of the darkest moments of modern American history. We know leaving the lights on 24/7 to deny prisons adequate rest and a sense of passing time is a type of torture because we purposely did that "to root out Al-Qaeda." You know who else knows? Ron fucking DeSantis, the former Bush era JAG who worked AT Gitmo. In other words? We have built a concentration camp for brown people and we are now intentionally torturing them. In the United States of America. While bragging about it and selling T-shirts to celebrate it. Tell me again why it's wrong to compare Trump's new America to Nazi Germany? #Fascism #Trump #RonDeSantis #ConcentrationCamps #AlligatorAlcatraz #GOP

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      Alligators, Concentration Camps, and Theatrical Fascism

      "So, let's be clear what we're talking about here. The fascist Florida government purposely built a concentration camp in the middle of a hurricane alley swamp, to facilitate the fascist Trump regime's ethnic cleansing project. And now, we're treating people who may be guilty of nothing more than a civil violation like War on Terror prisoners at Gitmo."

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      • anarchoninaanalyzes@social.treehouse.systemsA anarchoninaanalyzes@social.treehouse.systems

        I think I've decided that I need to separate out "concentration camps" from the larger fascist mass deportation story, because given the sheer amount of funding for migrant cages provided by the GOP's recently passed, homicidal-class war reconciliation budget, I think it's very unlikely "Alligator Alcatraz" will be a one-off. As such I'm going to link my previous post about why the facility in Florida is definitely a concentration camp here, so we can reference it going forward.

        AnarchoNinaAnalyzes (@AnarchoNinaAnalyzes@treehouse.systems)

        I think there is a larger conversation to be had about the crass, ignorant, and dystopian "game show" style of fascism the Trump regime is installing in America; a situation perfectly exemplified by the emergency construction of a migrant concentration camp on an abandoned airfield in the Florida Everglades, affectionately marketed (with actual merchandise) as "Alligator Alcatraz." It says a lot about what lies at the rotting core of Trumpism that in the implementation of its fascist policies, the regime always finds a way to surpass satirists in Hollywood and the fever dreams of authors like Hunter S. Thompson, in terms of theatrical cruelty, open greed, and complete disregard for human decency. As such, I understand why the outrage in response to the construction and implementation of what amounts to a dollar store knock off version of torture prisons like CECOT, has been focused on the outrageous pageantry Downmarket Mussolini, Ronny DeSantis, and the American fascist movement are engaged in to cover up the fact that we've just build a domestic "Gitmo" and the guy running it is a former Bush War on Terror lawyer with a very checkered past on the subjects of human rights and torture. The reality however is that "Alligator Alcatrez" (that is the official name of the gulag) is very clearly a concentration camp, designed to torture migrants as part of a slow-motion ethnic cleansing project to whiten the demographics of the USA. Furthermore, the evidence that this is so goes far beyond Trump's obscene comments about alligators eating escaped migrants, as Florida Republicans have openly touted the idea that exposure to hurricanes might make migrants self-deport to avoid being sent there - which a responsible media would recognize as US politicians arguing "death by hurricane" is an acceptable punishment for the civil violation of being in the country without papers. In fact, this alarming idea is literally baked into the second half of the dungeon's name; Alcatraz was a maximum security federal prison ostensibly designed to house "the worst felons in America," while Alligator Alcatraz is a giant torture cage for brown people on the wrong side of an imaginary line - the conflation is intentional on the part of the fascist politicians behind this monstrous scheme. Given the clear intentions behind opening our very own concentration camp in the Florida Everglades, the men behind the plan, and their open statements about why Alligator Alcatraz was built, it shouldn't surprise anyone that we're already getting reports of widespread human rights violations out of the facility. https://www.commondreams.org/news/alligator-alcatraz-human-rights 'A Form of Torture': Detainees Allege Mistreatment at 'Alligator Alcatraz' "They're not respecting our human rights," one detainee told CBS News Miami during a phone interview. "We're human beings; we're not dogs. We're like rats in an experiment." "I don't know their motive for doing this, if it's a form of torture," he added. "A lot of us have our residency documents and we don't understand why we're here." Another inmate, the Cuban reggaeton artist Leamsy La Figura, said guards "only brought a meal once a day and it had maggots." "They never take off the lights for 24 hours," he claimed. "The mosquitoes are as big as elephants," and "there's no water to take a bath, it's been four days since I've taken a bath." A Colombian detainee said his mental health is breaking down. "I'm on the edge of losing my mind. I've gone three days without taking my medicine," he said. "It's impossible to sleep with this white light that's on all day." "They took the Bible I had and they said here there is no right to religion," the detainee added. "And my Bible is the one thing that keeps my faith, and now I'm losing my faith." So, let's be clear what we're talking about here. The fascist Florida government purposely built a concentration camp in the middle of a hurricane alley swamp, to facilitate the fascist Trump regime's ethnic cleansing project. And now, we're treating people who may be guilty of nothing more than a civil violation like War on Terror prisoners at Gitmo. We've had entire hearings about the effects of restricting access to food, shower facilities, and medicine because this is what our government did to suspected terrorists during the one of the darkest moments of modern American history. We know leaving the lights on 24/7 to deny prisons adequate rest and a sense of passing time is a type of torture because we purposely did that "to root out Al-Qaeda." You know who else knows? Ron fucking DeSantis, the former Bush era JAG who worked AT Gitmo. In other words? We have built a concentration camp for brown people and we are now intentionally torturing them. In the United States of America. While bragging about it and selling T-shirts to celebrate it. Tell me again why it's wrong to compare Trump's new America to Nazi Germany? #Fascism #Trump #RonDeSantis #ConcentrationCamps #AlligatorAlcatraz #GOP

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        Alligators, Concentration Camps, and Theatrical Fascism

        "So, let's be clear what we're talking about here. The fascist Florida government purposely built a concentration camp in the middle of a hurricane alley swamp, to facilitate the fascist Trump regime's ethnic cleansing project. And now, we're treating people who may be guilty of nothing more than a civil violation like War on Terror prisoners at Gitmo."

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        I must confess I am discouraged by the alarming countercurrent in US discourse, pushing back on the idea that "Alligator Alcatraz" is an "actual" concentration camp. Some of this is fascist ideological flak, some is "enlightened centrists" whistling past the graveyard, and some of this is even coming from cynical folks on the left who know enough about the American carceral industrial complex to confidently (and to be fair, correctly) state America had "concentration camps" long before Trump. Frankly however I can think of few things less productive than entering into a semantic debate about the wholly accurate term concentration camp; I thought it might be better to just talk about the horrifying observed conditions inside Alligator Alcatraz instead, and let reasonable folks figure it out for themselves.

        To that end I want to share two stories about the same highly-controlled visit to Alligator Alcatraz by 3 Dem politicians, that each focus on different aspects of why I think the term fits and disputing the characterization borders on apologia.

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        Authorities have refused to release list of people sent there as Democratic lawmakers decry ‘inhumane’ conditions

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        the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

        Hundreds of detainees with no criminal charges sent to Trump’s ‘Alligator Alcatraz’

        "The notorious new “Alligator Alcatraz” immigration jail in the Florida Everglades contains hundreds of detainees with no criminal records or charges, it was disclosed on Sunday, as lawmakers decried “inhumane” conditions inside after touring the facility.

        Donald Trump has insisted that the remote camp in swamp land populated by pythons and alligators was reserved for immigrants who were “deranged psychopaths” and “some of the most vicious people on the planet” awaiting deportation.

        But at least one detainee shouted out to politicians during Saturday’s visit that he was a US citizen, the Democratic Florida congressman Maxwell Frost said. And the Miami Herald obtained and published a list of 700 people held in cages showing that at least 250 had committed no offense other than a civil immigration violation."

        So let's briefly touch on the important revelations in this article. First of all immigration officials are purposely obscuring the numbers and identities of detainees in the camp. Florida politicians are also lying about who runs the camp, which is clearly ICE, to deny opposition (Democrat) oversight of the facility. Please keep in mind that this is in addition to the migrant cages being located in a remote area in the Florida Everglades, far away from the prying eyes of the media and making official oversight all the more difficult. Furthermore, Trump and regime officials who are justifying keeping migrants in appalling conditions that amount to a concentration camp by saying only the worst types of criminals are being held at Alligator Alcatraz, are once again lying; as I stated repeatedly in prior articles hundreds of people in the camp are simply in the US without permission, which as the article notes is a civil violation, not a criminal charge - let alone a violent one.

        So, can you articulate what perfectly innocent reason a fascist government might have for building a semi-secret migrant cage complex, demonizing all the brown inhabitants as violent criminals even though many of them have committed no crimes, and are actively working to hide what is actually going on inside Alligator Alcatraz from media, regulators, and opposition officials? Yeah, me neither. Now let's take a look at the conditions the 3 Dem politicians were allowed to see despite the regime's efforts to hide occupied cages from them:

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        'This Is an Internment Camp': Lawmakers Horrified by Inhumane Conditions in 'Alligator Alcatraz' | Common Dreams

        "I saw 32 people per cage—about 6 cages in one tent. People were yelling 'Help me, help me'," said Florida Rep. Maxwell Frost.

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        'This Is an Internment Camp': Lawmakers Horrified by Inhumane Conditions in 'Alligator Alcatraz'

        "Wasserman-Schultz described it as an "internment camp" where detainees are "essentially packed into cages."

        "Wall-to-wall humans. 32 detainees per cage," she said. This, she noted, is unusual for immigration facilities, like the nearby Krome detention center in Miami-Dade County, where detainees are allowed to roam freely between buildings."

        Whatever I think of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz as a politician, it is inarguable that she's objectively describing a type of concentration camp. With dozens of brown bodies packed into small cages, inadequate access to washroom facilities and water, purposely reduced caloric counts inadequate for the preservation of healthy adults, exposure to elements and insects; what exactly would you call it? It's not an accident Wasserman-Schultz references America's dark history with the term "interment camps" but I think she's still being too generous to the Trump regime here; this is a camp of cages for cruelty concentrating migrants without any concern for their wellbeing at all - a concentration camp if you will.

        Folks, this is not a question of semantics. This is a concentration camp, for brown people, on US soil and word games aren't going to stop the nightmare we're speeding towards now.

        #Fascism #Trump #DHS #AlligatorAlcatraz #Noem #EthnicCleansing #Immigration #ConcentrationCamps

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        • anarchoninaanalyzes@social.treehouse.systemsA anarchoninaanalyzes@social.treehouse.systems

          I must confess I am discouraged by the alarming countercurrent in US discourse, pushing back on the idea that "Alligator Alcatraz" is an "actual" concentration camp. Some of this is fascist ideological flak, some is "enlightened centrists" whistling past the graveyard, and some of this is even coming from cynical folks on the left who know enough about the American carceral industrial complex to confidently (and to be fair, correctly) state America had "concentration camps" long before Trump. Frankly however I can think of few things less productive than entering into a semantic debate about the wholly accurate term concentration camp; I thought it might be better to just talk about the horrifying observed conditions inside Alligator Alcatraz instead, and let reasonable folks figure it out for themselves.

          To that end I want to share two stories about the same highly-controlled visit to Alligator Alcatraz by 3 Dem politicians, that each focus on different aspects of why I think the term fits and disputing the characterization borders on apologia.

          Link Preview Image
          Hundreds of detainees with no criminal charges sent to Trump’s ‘Alligator Alcatraz’

          Authorities have refused to release list of people sent there as Democratic lawmakers decry ‘inhumane’ conditions

          favicon

          the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

          Hundreds of detainees with no criminal charges sent to Trump’s ‘Alligator Alcatraz’

          "The notorious new “Alligator Alcatraz” immigration jail in the Florida Everglades contains hundreds of detainees with no criminal records or charges, it was disclosed on Sunday, as lawmakers decried “inhumane” conditions inside after touring the facility.

          Donald Trump has insisted that the remote camp in swamp land populated by pythons and alligators was reserved for immigrants who were “deranged psychopaths” and “some of the most vicious people on the planet” awaiting deportation.

          But at least one detainee shouted out to politicians during Saturday’s visit that he was a US citizen, the Democratic Florida congressman Maxwell Frost said. And the Miami Herald obtained and published a list of 700 people held in cages showing that at least 250 had committed no offense other than a civil immigration violation."

          So let's briefly touch on the important revelations in this article. First of all immigration officials are purposely obscuring the numbers and identities of detainees in the camp. Florida politicians are also lying about who runs the camp, which is clearly ICE, to deny opposition (Democrat) oversight of the facility. Please keep in mind that this is in addition to the migrant cages being located in a remote area in the Florida Everglades, far away from the prying eyes of the media and making official oversight all the more difficult. Furthermore, Trump and regime officials who are justifying keeping migrants in appalling conditions that amount to a concentration camp by saying only the worst types of criminals are being held at Alligator Alcatraz, are once again lying; as I stated repeatedly in prior articles hundreds of people in the camp are simply in the US without permission, which as the article notes is a civil violation, not a criminal charge - let alone a violent one.

          So, can you articulate what perfectly innocent reason a fascist government might have for building a semi-secret migrant cage complex, demonizing all the brown inhabitants as violent criminals even though many of them have committed no crimes, and are actively working to hide what is actually going on inside Alligator Alcatraz from media, regulators, and opposition officials? Yeah, me neither. Now let's take a look at the conditions the 3 Dem politicians were allowed to see despite the regime's efforts to hide occupied cages from them:

          Link Preview Image
          'This Is an Internment Camp': Lawmakers Horrified by Inhumane Conditions in 'Alligator Alcatraz' | Common Dreams

          "I saw 32 people per cage—about 6 cages in one tent. People were yelling 'Help me, help me'," said Florida Rep. Maxwell Frost.

          favicon

          Common Dreams (www.commondreams.org)

          'This Is an Internment Camp': Lawmakers Horrified by Inhumane Conditions in 'Alligator Alcatraz'

          "Wasserman-Schultz described it as an "internment camp" where detainees are "essentially packed into cages."

          "Wall-to-wall humans. 32 detainees per cage," she said. This, she noted, is unusual for immigration facilities, like the nearby Krome detention center in Miami-Dade County, where detainees are allowed to roam freely between buildings."

          Whatever I think of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz as a politician, it is inarguable that she's objectively describing a type of concentration camp. With dozens of brown bodies packed into small cages, inadequate access to washroom facilities and water, purposely reduced caloric counts inadequate for the preservation of healthy adults, exposure to elements and insects; what exactly would you call it? It's not an accident Wasserman-Schultz references America's dark history with the term "interment camps" but I think she's still being too generous to the Trump regime here; this is a camp of cages for cruelty concentrating migrants without any concern for their wellbeing at all - a concentration camp if you will.

          Folks, this is not a question of semantics. This is a concentration camp, for brown people, on US soil and word games aren't going to stop the nightmare we're speeding towards now.

          #Fascism #Trump #DHS #AlligatorAlcatraz #Noem #EthnicCleansing #Immigration #ConcentrationCamps

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          At this point, I think we're probably still a long way from identifying the full web of influence, corruption, and misappropriation of resources behind Governor Ron DeSantis' concentration camp in the Florida Everglades, the obnoxiously named "Alligator Alcatraz." As such I'm going to keep this post pretty brief; more or less to keep the issue on our radar as more information emerges.

          With that caveat noted however, this Talking Points Memo article talks about the outlet's extremely nascent investigation into how DeSantis built the concentration camp, who paid for it, and who profits from it. Would it surprise you to learn that Florida's fascist governor is using a fake "emergency" to make this monstrous bullshit happen, the money trail is a hot mess, and Florida taxpayers are going to be the folks footing the bill for Ron's nazi apology to Downmarket Mussolini? Yeah, it didn't surprise me either.

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          Contracts Show Millions of Dollars and Diverted Disaster Resources Were Used to Build DeSantis’ ‘Alligator Alcatraz’

          TPM has obtained and analyzed over a dozen contracts and invoices related to the construction and operation of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ so-called “Alligator…

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          Contracts Show Millions of Dollars and Diverted Disaster Resources Were Used to Build DeSantis’ ‘Alligator Alcatraz’

          "TPM has obtained and analyzed over a dozen contracts and invoices related to the construction and operation of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ so-called “Alligator Alcatraz” migrant detention camp in the Everglades. The documents identify eight previously undisclosed companies — including two firms with a Fortune 500 pedigree — involved with the controversial facility. They also show that, in at least one instance, resources allocated for the state’s “disaster preparedness” apparatus were diverted to the site as DeSantis’ office used emergency powers to quickly establish the camp, causing a shortfall that needs to be addressed during the ongoing hurricane season."

          I must confess that part of me feels like I'm insulting my readers' intelligence when I remind folks, over and over again, that nightmare concentration camps for migrants, many of whom are guilty of nothing more than a civil violation, would be an unacceptable eliminationist outrage even if nobody was profiteering from it and it cost the public coffers zero dollars. In the grand scheme of things the lies, corruption, and misappropriation of public funds are a side story compared to the fact that we've just opened a real as fuck concentration camp in a remote part of Florida and there are already reports of widespread human rights abuses and unsafe conditions emerging mere weeks after "Alligator Alcratraz" opened. With that having been said, informed observers must know by now that the rich nazis running the larger American fascist movement do have designs on profiting from fascist repression, ethnic cleansing, and the migrant carceral complex - and projects like Alligator Alcatraz demonstrate how that odious business functions.

          If you want to know the names of the eleven companies already identified as working with the government of Florida to make this eliminationist bullshit possible, who is getting paid for what, and how many of the folks directly profiting from this are DeSantis donors (there are several) I recommend you just read the article. The short version here however is that like Trump, DeSantis has declared "an alarming number of migrants in Florida" to be a state level crisis, he then used emergency powers to divert a bunch of money, including from disaster prevention and relief funding in a state notorious for having a "hurricane season," to build a fucking concentration camp surrounded by alligators as a make up gift for his ally and former GOP nomination opponent, President Trump. Along the way a bunch of very shitty companies are raking in the money for substandard work, and the entire DeSantis administration is working overtime to keep as much of this as possible a complete secret from anyone who might be in a position to conduct any oversight on this genocidal nazi boondoggle. Think "Halliburton in post-Saddam Iraq" but on a smaller scale.

          #Fascism #Trump #RonDeSantis #AlligatorAlcatraz #Racism #ConcentrationCamp #MigrantRights #Immigration #EthnicCleansing #Corruption #Graft #Bribery #Eliminationism #EthnoNationalism #Investigation

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          • anarchoninaanalyzes@social.treehouse.systemsA anarchoninaanalyzes@social.treehouse.systems

            At this point, I think we're probably still a long way from identifying the full web of influence, corruption, and misappropriation of resources behind Governor Ron DeSantis' concentration camp in the Florida Everglades, the obnoxiously named "Alligator Alcatraz." As such I'm going to keep this post pretty brief; more or less to keep the issue on our radar as more information emerges.

            With that caveat noted however, this Talking Points Memo article talks about the outlet's extremely nascent investigation into how DeSantis built the concentration camp, who paid for it, and who profits from it. Would it surprise you to learn that Florida's fascist governor is using a fake "emergency" to make this monstrous bullshit happen, the money trail is a hot mess, and Florida taxpayers are going to be the folks footing the bill for Ron's nazi apology to Downmarket Mussolini? Yeah, it didn't surprise me either.

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            Contracts Show Millions of Dollars and Diverted Disaster Resources Were Used to Build DeSantis’ ‘Alligator Alcatraz’

            TPM has obtained and analyzed over a dozen contracts and invoices related to the construction and operation of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ so-called “Alligator…

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            Contracts Show Millions of Dollars and Diverted Disaster Resources Were Used to Build DeSantis’ ‘Alligator Alcatraz’

            "TPM has obtained and analyzed over a dozen contracts and invoices related to the construction and operation of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ so-called “Alligator Alcatraz” migrant detention camp in the Everglades. The documents identify eight previously undisclosed companies — including two firms with a Fortune 500 pedigree — involved with the controversial facility. They also show that, in at least one instance, resources allocated for the state’s “disaster preparedness” apparatus were diverted to the site as DeSantis’ office used emergency powers to quickly establish the camp, causing a shortfall that needs to be addressed during the ongoing hurricane season."

            I must confess that part of me feels like I'm insulting my readers' intelligence when I remind folks, over and over again, that nightmare concentration camps for migrants, many of whom are guilty of nothing more than a civil violation, would be an unacceptable eliminationist outrage even if nobody was profiteering from it and it cost the public coffers zero dollars. In the grand scheme of things the lies, corruption, and misappropriation of public funds are a side story compared to the fact that we've just opened a real as fuck concentration camp in a remote part of Florida and there are already reports of widespread human rights abuses and unsafe conditions emerging mere weeks after "Alligator Alcratraz" opened. With that having been said, informed observers must know by now that the rich nazis running the larger American fascist movement do have designs on profiting from fascist repression, ethnic cleansing, and the migrant carceral complex - and projects like Alligator Alcatraz demonstrate how that odious business functions.

            If you want to know the names of the eleven companies already identified as working with the government of Florida to make this eliminationist bullshit possible, who is getting paid for what, and how many of the folks directly profiting from this are DeSantis donors (there are several) I recommend you just read the article. The short version here however is that like Trump, DeSantis has declared "an alarming number of migrants in Florida" to be a state level crisis, he then used emergency powers to divert a bunch of money, including from disaster prevention and relief funding in a state notorious for having a "hurricane season," to build a fucking concentration camp surrounded by alligators as a make up gift for his ally and former GOP nomination opponent, President Trump. Along the way a bunch of very shitty companies are raking in the money for substandard work, and the entire DeSantis administration is working overtime to keep as much of this as possible a complete secret from anyone who might be in a position to conduct any oversight on this genocidal nazi boondoggle. Think "Halliburton in post-Saddam Iraq" but on a smaller scale.

            #Fascism #Trump #RonDeSantis #AlligatorAlcatraz #Racism #ConcentrationCamp #MigrantRights #Immigration #EthnicCleansing #Corruption #Graft #Bribery #Eliminationism #EthnoNationalism #Investigation

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            I think I've been clear about the vital importance of describing the ethnonationalist migrant cages at the odiously-named "Alligator Alcatraz" facility in Florida, what they are - a concentration camp. By that same measure however, the presence of one purpose-built concentration camp in the Everglades doesn't preclude the transformation of pre-existing migrant cages into more concentration camps. In fact, while the Trump regime and DHS are working to restrict access to ICE detention centers, reports are leaking out about the horrifying conditions and human rights violations going on inside these facilities all the time. The fact that these stories don't penetrate the national discourse the way the new DeSantis Dachau facility in the swamp does, probably comes down a US society that has totally normalized the Gestapo, its migrant carceral complex, and the idea that it's okay to criminalize and brutalize people for the mere accident of their birth on the wrong side of an imaginary line. In this sense "Alligator Alcatraz" is "special" because the Trumpenreich is practically screaming "we've intentionally built a concentration camp" out loud, while the horrifying concentration-camp like conditions found in "normal" migrant gulags across Texas, Louisiana, or Florida for example, are just "business as usual."

            As a recent human rights report about three other migrant detention facilities in Florida proves however, there is nothing "normal" about the way the Trumpenreich and its Gestapo are treating detainees inside these facilities. Gathering reports from former prisoners, immigration lawyers, and families of folks inside the cages, the report finds evidence of overcrowding, intentional cruelty, and institutionalized dehumanization that are creating all the same conditions and dangers for the Gestapo's victims, that lead folks to confidently call "Alligator Alcatraz" a concentration camp with the full weight of history behind them.

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            Migrants at Ice jail in Miami made to kneel to eat ‘like dogs’, report alleges

            "Migrants at a Miami immigration jail were shackled with their hands tied behind their backs and made to kneel to eat food from styrofoam plates “like dogs”, according to a report published on Monday into conditions at three overcrowded south Florida facilities.

            The incident at the downtown federal detention center is one of a succession of alleged abuses at Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency (Ice) operated jails in the state since January, chronicled by advocacy groups Human Rights Watch, Americans for Immigrant Justice, and Sanctuary of the South from interviews with detainees."

            This article an organizational mess, but what HRW is reporting on massive overcrowding in the three identified facilities, unsanitary holding conditions, dehumanizing treatment of prisoners (72% of whom have no criminal record) paired with violent reprisals by Gestapo guards, and denial of access to necessary medical or psychological care. For example, the testimony about shackled prisoners being forced to eat like dogs is part of a larger body of evidence that Florida Gestapo minions are cramming far too many people into these gulags and don't seem to care about the dangerous conditions or human rights violations that result.

            "The jail was so far beyond capacity, some transferring detainees reported, that they were held for more than 24 hours in a bus in the parking lot. Men and women were confined together, and unshackled only when they needed to use the single toilet, which quickly became clogged.

            “The bus became disgusting. It was the type of toilet in which normally people only urinate but because we were on the bus for so long, and we were not permitted to leave it, others defecated in the toilet,” one man said."

            Of course, this isn't to make excuses for the Gestapo because not only could they simply jail less people for being brown, but the human rights violations, violence, and dehumanization going on inside of these facilities doesn't appear materially different from the abuses going on in "temporary" holding areas.

            "Some suffered delayed treatment for injuries and chronic conditions, and dismissive or hostile responses from staff, the report said.

            In one alleged incident in April at the downtown Miami jail, staff turned off a surveillance camera and a “disturbance control team” brutalized detainees who were protesting a lack of medical attention to one of their number who was coughing up blood. One detainee suffered a broken finger."

            Folks, it's not good enough to say "the cruelty is the point" while refusing act. The dehumanization and endangerment of brown prisoners inside ICE gulags is an intentional part of a larger fascist ethnic cleansing process that typically ends in mass killings and genocide. Once you start treating people like animals, they stop being human, and that's a necessary precondition for the kind of racialized mass murders that live in historical infamy.

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              I think I've been clear about the vital importance of describing the ethnonationalist migrant cages at the odiously-named "Alligator Alcatraz" facility in Florida, what they are - a concentration camp. By that same measure however, the presence of one purpose-built concentration camp in the Everglades doesn't preclude the transformation of pre-existing migrant cages into more concentration camps. In fact, while the Trump regime and DHS are working to restrict access to ICE detention centers, reports are leaking out about the horrifying conditions and human rights violations going on inside these facilities all the time. The fact that these stories don't penetrate the national discourse the way the new DeSantis Dachau facility in the swamp does, probably comes down a US society that has totally normalized the Gestapo, its migrant carceral complex, and the idea that it's okay to criminalize and brutalize people for the mere accident of their birth on the wrong side of an imaginary line. In this sense "Alligator Alcatraz" is "special" because the Trumpenreich is practically screaming "we've intentionally built a concentration camp" out loud, while the horrifying concentration-camp like conditions found in "normal" migrant gulags across Texas, Louisiana, or Florida for example, are just "business as usual."

              As a recent human rights report about three other migrant detention facilities in Florida proves however, there is nothing "normal" about the way the Trumpenreich and its Gestapo are treating detainees inside these facilities. Gathering reports from former prisoners, immigration lawyers, and families of folks inside the cages, the report finds evidence of overcrowding, intentional cruelty, and institutionalized dehumanization that are creating all the same conditions and dangers for the Gestapo's victims, that lead folks to confidently call "Alligator Alcatraz" a concentration camp with the full weight of history behind them.

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              Migrants at Ice jail in Miami made to kneel to eat ‘like dogs’, report alleges

              Incident in which migrants were shackled with hands tied one of succession of alleged abuses at jails in Florida

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              the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

              Migrants at Ice jail in Miami made to kneel to eat ‘like dogs’, report alleges

              "Migrants at a Miami immigration jail were shackled with their hands tied behind their backs and made to kneel to eat food from styrofoam plates “like dogs”, according to a report published on Monday into conditions at three overcrowded south Florida facilities.

              The incident at the downtown federal detention center is one of a succession of alleged abuses at Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency (Ice) operated jails in the state since January, chronicled by advocacy groups Human Rights Watch, Americans for Immigrant Justice, and Sanctuary of the South from interviews with detainees."

              This article an organizational mess, but what HRW is reporting on massive overcrowding in the three identified facilities, unsanitary holding conditions, dehumanizing treatment of prisoners (72% of whom have no criminal record) paired with violent reprisals by Gestapo guards, and denial of access to necessary medical or psychological care. For example, the testimony about shackled prisoners being forced to eat like dogs is part of a larger body of evidence that Florida Gestapo minions are cramming far too many people into these gulags and don't seem to care about the dangerous conditions or human rights violations that result.

              "The jail was so far beyond capacity, some transferring detainees reported, that they were held for more than 24 hours in a bus in the parking lot. Men and women were confined together, and unshackled only when they needed to use the single toilet, which quickly became clogged.

              “The bus became disgusting. It was the type of toilet in which normally people only urinate but because we were on the bus for so long, and we were not permitted to leave it, others defecated in the toilet,” one man said."

              Of course, this isn't to make excuses for the Gestapo because not only could they simply jail less people for being brown, but the human rights violations, violence, and dehumanization going on inside of these facilities doesn't appear materially different from the abuses going on in "temporary" holding areas.

              "Some suffered delayed treatment for injuries and chronic conditions, and dismissive or hostile responses from staff, the report said.

              In one alleged incident in April at the downtown Miami jail, staff turned off a surveillance camera and a “disturbance control team” brutalized detainees who were protesting a lack of medical attention to one of their number who was coughing up blood. One detainee suffered a broken finger."

              Folks, it's not good enough to say "the cruelty is the point" while refusing act. The dehumanization and endangerment of brown prisoners inside ICE gulags is an intentional part of a larger fascist ethnic cleansing process that typically ends in mass killings and genocide. Once you start treating people like animals, they stop being human, and that's a necessary precondition for the kind of racialized mass murders that live in historical infamy.

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              I don't think this horrifying January 20th article on Popular Information broke into the mainstream media much at the time, but given the news that the Trump regime is turbocharging its efforts to build concentration camps out of warehouses and military bases all around the country, it probably should have.

              In the simplest possible terms, ICE is now denying medical coverage to thousands of detainees, and regardless of the reasons why that is happening (more below) this depraved indifference to human life inside what we have already established are concentration camps, is eerily reminiscent of the process that lead the actual Nazi Reich in Germany to conduct the Holocaust.

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              ICE has stopped paying for detainee medical treatment

              "Under the law, ICE is required to provide necessary medical care for this population.

              While ICE employs some of its own medical staff, it often uses third-party providers. ICE’s Buffalo Federal Detention Facility, for example, houses over 500 detainees and has no doctor or dentist on staff.

              ICE, however, has not paid any third-party providers for medical care for detainees since October 3, 2025. Last week, ICE posted a notice on an obscure government website announcing it will not begin processing such claims until at least April 30, 2026. Until then, medical providers are instructed “to hold all claims submissions.”

              ICE’s failure to pay its bills for months has caused some medical providers to deny services to ICE detainees, an administration source, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the press, told Popular Information. In other cases, detainees have allegedly been denied essential medical care by ICE."

              If you read the entire story, you'll discover that this situation likely arose out of another manufactured outrage promoted by fascists both inside and outside the GOP; specifically the idea that having Veteran Affairs process medical services claims for ICE (which ICE paid them for in full) amounted to "robbing veterans to pay off" migrants. That is however not exculpatory for either ICE or the larger Trump administration, because deciding to stuff people into concentration camps and then refusing to provide them necessary, in some cases even life-saving medical care, because of a manufactured political scandal, is still deciding to lock people in concentration camps and let them fucking die.

              To paraphrase Toni Morrison, the reason the Nazis called what we now know as the Holocaust, the "final solution" is because they tried a bunch of other things before that to solve the "problem" of Jewish people existing inside Nazi-controlled territory. One of those "solutions" was absolutely purposely making life in the concentration and labor camps impossible to sustain - in other words, murdering Jewish people and other folks inside the camps through intentional neglect. I'm pretty sure it's not any sort of accident at all, that Trump, Miller, Noem and other assorted literal fucking white supremacist nazis in this administration and the larger Homeland Security aparatus, are copying from Hitler and Himmler's most evil playbook.

              #Fascism #ConcentrationCamps #ICE #Murder #Trump #GOP #KristiNoem #StephenMiller #FinalSolution #MurderByNeglect

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                I don't think this horrifying January 20th article on Popular Information broke into the mainstream media much at the time, but given the news that the Trump regime is turbocharging its efforts to build concentration camps out of warehouses and military bases all around the country, it probably should have.

                In the simplest possible terms, ICE is now denying medical coverage to thousands of detainees, and regardless of the reasons why that is happening (more below) this depraved indifference to human life inside what we have already established are concentration camps, is eerily reminiscent of the process that lead the actual Nazi Reich in Germany to conduct the Holocaust.

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                ICE has stopped paying for detainee medical treatment

                ICE halted payments in October, and the situation will persist for at least several more months

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                (popular.info)

                ICE has stopped paying for detainee medical treatment

                "Under the law, ICE is required to provide necessary medical care for this population.

                While ICE employs some of its own medical staff, it often uses third-party providers. ICE’s Buffalo Federal Detention Facility, for example, houses over 500 detainees and has no doctor or dentist on staff.

                ICE, however, has not paid any third-party providers for medical care for detainees since October 3, 2025. Last week, ICE posted a notice on an obscure government website announcing it will not begin processing such claims until at least April 30, 2026. Until then, medical providers are instructed “to hold all claims submissions.”

                ICE’s failure to pay its bills for months has caused some medical providers to deny services to ICE detainees, an administration source, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the press, told Popular Information. In other cases, detainees have allegedly been denied essential medical care by ICE."

                If you read the entire story, you'll discover that this situation likely arose out of another manufactured outrage promoted by fascists both inside and outside the GOP; specifically the idea that having Veteran Affairs process medical services claims for ICE (which ICE paid them for in full) amounted to "robbing veterans to pay off" migrants. That is however not exculpatory for either ICE or the larger Trump administration, because deciding to stuff people into concentration camps and then refusing to provide them necessary, in some cases even life-saving medical care, because of a manufactured political scandal, is still deciding to lock people in concentration camps and let them fucking die.

                To paraphrase Toni Morrison, the reason the Nazis called what we now know as the Holocaust, the "final solution" is because they tried a bunch of other things before that to solve the "problem" of Jewish people existing inside Nazi-controlled territory. One of those "solutions" was absolutely purposely making life in the concentration and labor camps impossible to sustain - in other words, murdering Jewish people and other folks inside the camps through intentional neglect. I'm pretty sure it's not any sort of accident at all, that Trump, Miller, Noem and other assorted literal fucking white supremacist nazis in this administration and the larger Homeland Security aparatus, are copying from Hitler and Himmler's most evil playbook.

                #Fascism #ConcentrationCamps #ICE #Murder #Trump #GOP #KristiNoem #StephenMiller #FinalSolution #MurderByNeglect

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                Yeah, I did not stutter. While I was away, news emerged that the US government is spending potentially billions of dollars to buy up warehouses all around the country and transform them into concentration camps.

                Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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                ICE Begins Buying ‘Mega’ Warehouse Detention Centers Across US

                "The 23 proposed sites would range in size from 500 to 9,500 beds. If completed as planned, the larger facilities would be some of the biggest detention centers of any kind in the country. For example, the 9,500-bed facility ICE is planning for Hutchins, Texas, could fit the entire average daily jail population of Dallas County with thousands of beds to spare.

                In recent weeks the federal government has given tours of potential sites in more than 20 cities to contractors and shared with them the designs, including preferred layouts, for at least 15 of the sites, according to people familiar with the confidential process. Contractors — the ones who will turn these warehouses into jails — were required to send in their proposals for the first sites this week, starting with Hagerstown, according to those sources.

                To reach its goal of deporting 1 million people a year, the Trump administration has said it needs more than 100,000 detention beds. Currently, there are more than 73,000 people in ICE custody, a record. The new sites could give the agency an additional 76,500 beds, according to documents shared with Bloomberg News. To fill all of them, the administration would have to expand immigration arrests beyond what it is already doing, said Emma Winger, deputy legal director at the American Immigration Council.

                “To reach these kinds of numbers, they’d need to go out into the communities and find people who’ve been living their lives and been here a long time,” Winger said. “They’d have to dramatically increase their presence in communities across the country.”

                It's unfortunate that I don't have more time to go over this article with you. It's pretty rare that I find myself admiring a piece published in Bloomberg, but this is actually a really in-depth look at the way Trump's mass deportation agenda can't be established without what amounts to a nation-wide network of concentration camps, and those camps are threatening and harmful to both migrants and American citizens, regardless of their political affiliation.

                Like most mainstream corporate outlets covering the Trump regime's ethnic cleansing program however, they're still far too focused on this merely being a waste of astronomical amounts of taxpayer money. It certainly is, but again, I think the fact that they're building concentration camps out of former online retail distribution warehouses as part of an ethnonationalist project to reshape America according to Stephen Miller and Trump's whims would be a major crisis and a crime against humanity even if they were doing it for free. Maybe that's just me.

                What Bloomberg does provide the space to stress however, is that you don't build this many concentration camps unless you're planning to lock up a lot more people than the Gestpo is currently detaining; which in turn means that far from backing down in Minneapolis, the Trump regime is clearly headed towards a lot more operations just like it. Where the mainstream corporate media always falls down however, is in forgetting that concentration camps for migrants, can just as easily be concentration camps for anyone the Trump regime wants to dispose of for any reason at all. One simple review of Trump's National Security Presidential Memorandum 7 (NSPM-7) makes it pretty clear that Trump and his Gestapo have spaces in camps lined up for "terrorists" who oppose his absolute rule over a fascist America.

                #Fascism #Trump #StephenMiller #ICE #ConcentrationCamps #DHS #Warehouses #NSPM7 #EthnicCleansing #Gestapo #WhiteNationalism

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