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    random thought…

    LLMs are not going to kill open source. People using LLMs without understanding what they are doing are.

    It's just the eternal september (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September ) all over again...

    I'm sorry to be that guy but while there's a ton of questionable things with LLMs, they're not autonomous agents and I think that blaming the thing/tool (LLMs) instead of the operator is unhelpful.

    Irresponsible users who want an instant of fame, think that LLMs can lower the bar to something they aspire to but have no understanding of, and as a result makes them 10x as detrimental. It's not limited to FLOSS, ask any security bounty program on earth what LLMs have done to them.

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      random thought…

      LLMs are not going to kill open source. People using LLMs without understanding what they are doing are.

      It's just the eternal september (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September ) all over again...

      I'm sorry to be that guy but while there's a ton of questionable things with LLMs, they're not autonomous agents and I think that blaming the thing/tool (LLMs) instead of the operator is unhelpful.

      Irresponsible users who want an instant of fame, think that LLMs can lower the bar to something they aspire to but have no understanding of, and as a result makes them 10x as detrimental. It's not limited to FLOSS, ask any security bounty program on earth what LLMs have done to them.

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      @madcoder and yet, as with guns, we'd be much better off if they were anywhere between "not available to the general population" and "non-existent".

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        @madcoder and yet, as with guns, we'd be much better off if they were anywhere between "not available to the general population" and "non-existent".

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        @siguza I knew someone would get there. Guns are only ever meant to kill or hurt. They are weapons.

        LLMs have valid uses that are generally good and positive, so that comparison is just -- sorry -- a little asinine. Compare them to knives if you want, that'd I’d buy. You can cut yourself with them, you can stab others with them, yet they're also useful to you know, eat and cook.

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        • madcoder@infosec.exchangeM madcoder@infosec.exchange

          @siguza I knew someone would get there. Guns are only ever meant to kill or hurt. They are weapons.

          LLMs have valid uses that are generally good and positive, so that comparison is just -- sorry -- a little asinine. Compare them to knives if you want, that'd I’d buy. You can cut yourself with them, you can stab others with them, yet they're also useful to you know, eat and cook.

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          @madcoder what are some "good and positive" uses of LLMs then? I honestly fail to see the non-malicious use cases.

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