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CIRCLE WITH A DOT

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  3. It's mine, I tell you.

It's mine, I tell you.

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  • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

    I contacted a company who stocks spares for UK payphones, asking them to send me a set of keys to try.

    They replied with "That will not be possible" and the following photo.

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    @jonty aren't these all tubular keys and your phone has a "normal" key?

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    • nicoduck@chaos.socialN nicoduck@chaos.social

      @jonty aren't these all tubular keys and your phone has a "normal" key?

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      @nicoduck Correct! They have now concluded that they aren't allowed to sell us a key, but could unlock it for us.

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      • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

        I contacted a company who stocks spares for UK payphones, asking them to send me a set of keys to try.

        They replied with "That will not be possible" and the following photo.

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        #60

        @jonty that is a really cool response

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        • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

          @nicoduck Correct! They have now concluded that they aren't allowed to sell us a key, but could unlock it for us.

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          @jonty why aren't they allowed to sell a key? Are they allowed to sell a key to another locksmith? Or if you can get the bitting, I could cut one (I happen to have a locksmith license now and a key cutting machine)

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          • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

            Do I have the keys? No. Can we pick the lock? Also no.

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            @jonty

            When I bought a German 1990s "Clubtelefon 2", I was able to disassemble the set to remove the lock, and then take the lock to a locksmith to have a new key made for it.

            Mind you, the Clubtelefon 2 is not meant for high-security. The lock mechanism is made of plastic.

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            • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

              @NekoEd @becomethewaifu Correct! A friend brought one over for me in his hold luggage.

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              @jonty @NekoEd @becomethewaifu

              When I was in Canada a couple of years ago, I nearly used one (at Grand Beach Provincial Park, Manitoba). But it wanted something incredible like $3 for the first minute, and I'm still not 100% sure it was hooked up.

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              • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                @sa I have an entire box of ATAs, don't worry - the main problem is going to be getting into the damn thing as we don't have keys!

                The fun problem is going to be reverse engineering the firmware to figure out the phone-home configuration protocol, if you fancy helping with that

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                @jonty @sa

                German payphones will not work with most ATAs, because they expect 60 V open-circuit and 32 mA loop current, as against 48 V and 20 mA from a typical ATA, but there are a few. Better still, there are ones which support both the higher power and the central-office time-pulse charging method. But how British payphones work I have no idea.

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                • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                  It's mine, I tell you. My own. My precious.

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                  @jonty Do you have the older 2-slot, Built-Like-A-Tank ones?

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                  • lpbkdotnet@mstdn.socialL lpbkdotnet@mstdn.social

                    @jonty Oh it's that one!

                    I had wondered who won it.

                    Unfortunately, although I do know a few current and ex engineers from the westcountry, none of them were in Bath as far as I know.

                    However, I "might" know someone who knows someone... It may come to nothing, but it can't hurt to ask.

                    I had previously asked someone who I know used to steal cash from payphones in the early 90s how they got in

                    Unfortunately their methods were horrifically destructive - so not a suitable approach here!

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                    #66

                    @jonty sadly I drew a blank on the keys

                    However, they did offer me these locks which look like they "might" be the right fit

                    They've had the pins removed, so will operate with a screwdriver - but (assuming they fit) will still hold the case shut without looking too "wrong"

                    Let me know if you want these spares as a backup option in case you end up with no options apart from drilling.

                    It might be more fun to lend it to the EMF locksport village as a challenge though?

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                    • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                      I contacted a company who stocks spares for UK payphones, asking them to send me a set of keys to try.

                      They replied with "That will not be possible" and the following photo.

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                      @jonty Try this guy!

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                      • publius@mastodon.sdf.orgP publius@mastodon.sdf.org

                        @jonty @NekoEd @becomethewaifu

                        When I was in Canada a couple of years ago, I nearly used one (at Grand Beach Provincial Park, Manitoba). But it wanted something incredible like $3 for the first minute, and I'm still not 100% sure it was hooked up.

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                        @publius @jonty @becomethewaifu I've seen a handful in the US in the distant past (25 years ago).

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                        • lpbkdotnet@mstdn.socialL lpbkdotnet@mstdn.social

                          @jonty sadly I drew a blank on the keys

                          However, they did offer me these locks which look like they "might" be the right fit

                          They've had the pins removed, so will operate with a screwdriver - but (assuming they fit) will still hold the case shut without looking too "wrong"

                          Let me know if you want these spares as a backup option in case you end up with no options apart from drilling.

                          It might be more fun to lend it to the EMF locksport village as a challenge though?

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                          @lpbkdotnet Oh yes please! I kind of wanted it functioning for EMF so we'll see how desperate I get...

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                          • nicoduck@chaos.socialN nicoduck@chaos.social

                            @jonty why aren't they allowed to sell a key? Are they allowed to sell a key to another locksmith? Or if you can get the bitting, I could cut one (I happen to have a locksmith license now and a key cutting machine)

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                            @nicoduck @jonty You need to have a licence for that?

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                            • 1000millimeter@chaos.social1 1000millimeter@chaos.social

                              @nicoduck @jonty You need to have a licence for that?

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                              @1000millimeter @jonty In Germany, you can only do locksmiths stuff (for money) if you're reliable (money/tax wise) and don't have a criminal record.
                              license in that term meas "just" that the administration registers your business and doesn't decline the application.

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                              • nicoduck@chaos.socialN nicoduck@chaos.social

                                @1000millimeter @jonty In Germany, you can only do locksmiths stuff (for money) if you're reliable (money/tax wise) and don't have a criminal record.
                                license in that term meas "just" that the administration registers your business and doesn't decline the application.

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                                @nicoduck @jonty And you do that as a hobby?

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                                • 1000millimeter@chaos.social1 1000millimeter@chaos.social

                                  @nicoduck @jonty And you do that as a hobby?

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                                  #73

                                  @1000millimeter @jonty it escalated a bit and maybe one day I earn the money I just invested in machines and key blanks?

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                                  • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                                    @lpbkdotnet Oh yes please! I kind of wanted it functioning for EMF so we'll see how desperate I get...

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                                    @jonty @lpbkdotnet Love the fediverse for conversations like this one!

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                                    • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                                      @lpbkdotnet Oh yes please! I kind of wanted it functioning for EMF so we'll see how desperate I get...

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                                      @jonty I'll see what I can sort out. It may take a week or two for me to be in the same place as the locks - but I'll send them your way when I can.

                                      I don't expect they'll cost enough for me to be worried about passing the costs on - but I'll let you know if they're above that threshold.

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                                      • jonty@chaos.socialJ jonty@chaos.social

                                        I contacted a company who stocks spares for UK payphones, asking them to send me a set of keys to try.

                                        They replied with "That will not be possible" and the following photo.

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                                        @jonty hmm… has anyone tagged in @alice on this quest yet?

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                                        • mycrowgirl@flipping.rocksM mycrowgirl@flipping.rocks

                                          @jonty hmm… has anyone tagged in @alice on this quest yet?

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                                          @mycrowgirl they have now 😋

                                          @jonty do you happen to be located near Seattle? I'd open it for the fun.

                                          If not, I might be able to walk you through opening it.

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