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some nerd: "I just want to have a discussion about LLM use in your project"me: "this is not the place to be having that discussion.

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  • nein@chaos.socialN nein@chaos.social

    @zkat that's totally fine. You don't owe anyone building stuff for free, I am very happy using it as-is 🙂

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    @zkat also I think that we are in a good time to build open source software without guarantees and shiny surfaces to escape capitalist appropriation of our work

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    • Z zkat@toot.cat

      some nerd: "I just want to have a discussion about LLM use in your project"
      me: "this is not the place to be having that discussion. I have already established a boundary"
      some nerd: "I am offended that you are not having this discussion right here, on my terms"

      fuck you, this is my own damn repo

      this is literally on one of the 1 or 2 open source projects I'm still willing to maintain at any level. Just absolutely not giving me any reason to keep doing open source at all. Fuck all of these people, and fuck open source.

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      @zkat that's the difference on open source and free software. The power relationships. Fork off and shut up seems a reasonable response on your behalf.

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      • Z zkat@toot.cat

        some nerd: "I just want to have a discussion about LLM use in your project"
        me: "this is not the place to be having that discussion. I have already established a boundary"
        some nerd: "I am offended that you are not having this discussion right here, on my terms"

        fuck you, this is my own damn repo

        this is literally on one of the 1 or 2 open source projects I'm still willing to maintain at any level. Just absolutely not giving me any reason to keep doing open source at all. Fuck all of these people, and fuck open source.

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        @zkat
        "Talk to your LLM if you want someone who always tells you that your ideas are great."

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        • tian2992@mastodon.socialT tian2992@mastodon.social

          @zkat that's the difference on open source and free software. The power relationships. Fork off and shut up seems a reasonable response on your behalf.

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          @tian2992 @zkat I would just block immediately. Someone who won't respect that boundary does not deserve any further engagement.

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          • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

            @zkat Also, not for nothing, I just cannot develop a theory of mind for why someone would behave like that. Why would anyone think that's not only an OK thing to do, but something *positive* to do with their time on this planet?

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            @xgranade @zkat Some of those people fall down a real rabbit hole of an LLM telling them "that's a great idea!" every day, and they just lose the ability to handle normal interactions that aren't at least that positive in every response.

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            • Z zkat@toot.cat

              some nerd: "I just want to have a discussion about LLM use in your project"
              me: "this is not the place to be having that discussion. I have already established a boundary"
              some nerd: "I am offended that you are not having this discussion right here, on my terms"

              fuck you, this is my own damn repo

              this is literally on one of the 1 or 2 open source projects I'm still willing to maintain at any level. Just absolutely not giving me any reason to keep doing open source at all. Fuck all of these people, and fuck open source.

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              @zkat Open source is (maybe subtly) about maintainership, and LLMs are incredibly hostile to maintainers.

              And licensing! I definitely have moved towards the Radical Copyleft over the last two years, after spending most of my career leaning towards permissive licenses, because I finally see the value of having some legal teeth to bite back against bad actors. Even GPL isn't some cure-all though, and it's exhausting.

              It's going to be a dark couple years of existing open source exploitation trends/burnout getting worse, which will be recounted by ghouls: "I don't understand why $maintainer doesn't just drink the Radithor I'm hawking! I've never felt more vitality in my bones."

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