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@joy i havent checked on crunchbase in a while for them, but like - there are investors. those people want 10x-20x return on their money. bsky doesnt do that and stay 'free'. now theres a vc as the ceo?
It says something that they couldn't find someone from industry to be the next CEO.
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It says something that they couldn't find someone from industry to be the next CEO.
@joy id have done it >:D
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RE: https://vmst.io/@vmstan/116200819973767850
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No, it's fine. Who could be better suited to lead an open source company like Bluesky than a (checks notes) former executive at WordPress that was intimately involved with one of the open source community's most notorious shakedown scandals.
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RE: https://vmst.io/@vmstan/116200819973767850
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@Viss I'll go get the popcorn.
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No, it's fine. Who could be better suited to lead an open source company like Bluesky than a (checks notes) former executive at WordPress that was intimately involved with one of the open source community's most notorious shakedown scandals.
@DaveMWilburn gird your loins for the influx of new users
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@DaveMWilburn gird your loins for the influx of new users
@Viss I'm doubtful. They've had plenty of scandals already, and they mostly didn't result in huge influxes of new Fedi users.
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@Viss I'm doubtful. They've had plenty of scandals already, and they mostly didn't result in huge influxes of new Fedi users.
@DaveMWilburn ive seen trivially half a dozen huge waves of people who fall off bsky and come here. some go back again, but there's always a 'wave'
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@Viss I'm doubtful. They've had plenty of scandals already, and they mostly didn't result in huge influxes of new Fedi users.
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or maybe not actually ads - maybe it's gonna be AI training. they're gonna announce a partnership with one of the frontier llm orgs to ingest the firehose to train a new conversational model or something.
@Viss they can already do that for free, can't they?
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@Viss they can already do that for free, can't they?
@rawrmonstar im not sure how interacting with any frontier model at that scale could be free - if they are training their own, then its tens of millions in spend on gear to do it in-house. if theyre using the cloud, then its 5x that in cloud costs. if they are training a frontier model, then that company will probably eat the cost, but its still a shitload of engineering heavy lift to make it happen
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RE: https://vmst.io/@vmstan/116200819973767850
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RE: https://vmst.io/@vmstan/116200819973767850
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@Viss hey don't forget PII!
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RE: https://vmst.io/@vmstan/116200819973767850
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@Viss do do do do
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@Viss hey don't forget PII!
@quinn oh totally. option B is that they just hoover up absolutely everything on the platform and feed it in its entirety to an llm and get paid for it that way
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@ramsey @catsalad zero clue. back when i was on bsky, for the short period i used it, none of their staff would ever reply to me or respond to me in any way - which made it all the more delicious every time they fell on their faces from problems twitter solved ten years ago that i could have trivially helped them with.
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@ramsey @catsalad zero clue. back when i was on bsky, for the short period i used it, none of their staff would ever reply to me or respond to me in any way - which made it all the more delicious every time they fell on their faces from problems twitter solved ten years ago that i could have trivially helped them with.
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@rawrmonstar im not sure how interacting with any frontier model at that scale could be free - if they are training their own, then its tens of millions in spend on gear to do it in-house. if theyre using the cloud, then its 5x that in cloud costs. if they are training a frontier model, then that company will probably eat the cost, but its still a shitload of engineering heavy lift to make it happen
@Viss I meant you can access the BlueSky firehouse without a partnership with them can't you? Why would an AI company pay BlueSky when they don't need to?
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@Viss I meant you can access the BlueSky firehouse without a partnership with them can't you? Why would an AI company pay BlueSky when they don't need to?
@rawrmonstar oh, i see. no idea then, im just speculating. but with a vc in charge as the ceo, you can bet there's gonna be some big announcement coming
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@quinn oh totally. option B is that they just hoover up absolutely everything on the platform and feed it in its entirety to an llm and get paid for it that way
@Viss why not also good ol fashioned targeted ads an Algo manipulation too?
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@Viss why not also good ol fashioned targeted ads an Algo manipulation too?
@quinn oh sure, like those cerveza crystal commercials in chile - where they hack the ad right into the movie
