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  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

    RE: https://vmst.io/@vmstan/116200819973767850

    here comes the pivot to ads

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    or maybe not actually ads - maybe it's gonna be AI training. they're gonna announce a partnership with one of the frontier llm orgs to ingest the firehose to train a new conversational model or something.

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    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

      RE: https://vmst.io/@vmstan/116200819973767850

      here comes the pivot to ads

      joy@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Viss

      <kermit drinking tea dot gif>

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      • joy@mastodon.socialJ joy@mastodon.social

        @Viss

        <kermit drinking tea dot gif>

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        @joy i havent checked on crunchbase in a while for them, but like - there are investors. those people want 10x-20x return on their money. bsky doesnt do that and stay 'free'. now theres a vc as the ceo?

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        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

          @joy i havent checked on crunchbase in a while for them, but like - there are investors. those people want 10x-20x return on their money. bsky doesnt do that and stay 'free'. now theres a vc as the ceo?

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          @Viss

          It says something that they couldn't find someone from industry to be the next CEO.

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          • joy@mastodon.socialJ joy@mastodon.social

            @Viss

            It says something that they couldn't find someone from industry to be the next CEO.

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            @joy id have done it >:D

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            • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

              RE: https://vmst.io/@vmstan/116200819973767850

              here comes the pivot to ads

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              @Viss

              No, it's fine. Who could be better suited to lead an open source company like Bluesky than a (checks notes) former executive at WordPress that was intimately involved with one of the open source community's most notorious shakedown scandals.

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              • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                RE: https://vmst.io/@vmstan/116200819973767850

                here comes the pivot to ads

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                @Viss I'll go get the popcorn.

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                • davemwilburn@infosec.exchangeD davemwilburn@infosec.exchange

                  @Viss

                  No, it's fine. Who could be better suited to lead an open source company like Bluesky than a (checks notes) former executive at WordPress that was intimately involved with one of the open source community's most notorious shakedown scandals.

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                  @DaveMWilburn gird your loins for the influx of new users

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                  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                    @DaveMWilburn gird your loins for the influx of new users

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                    @Viss I'm doubtful. They've had plenty of scandals already, and they mostly didn't result in huge influxes of new Fedi users.

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                    • davemwilburn@infosec.exchangeD davemwilburn@infosec.exchange

                      @Viss I'm doubtful. They've had plenty of scandals already, and they mostly didn't result in huge influxes of new Fedi users.

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                      @DaveMWilburn ive seen trivially half a dozen huge waves of people who fall off bsky and come here. some go back again, but there's always a 'wave'

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                      • davemwilburn@infosec.exchangeD davemwilburn@infosec.exchange

                        @Viss I'm doubtful. They've had plenty of scandals already, and they mostly didn't result in huge influxes of new Fedi users.

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                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                          or maybe not actually ads - maybe it's gonna be AI training. they're gonna announce a partnership with one of the frontier llm orgs to ingest the firehose to train a new conversational model or something.

                          rawrmonstar@social.vivaldi.netR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @Viss they can already do that for free, can't they?

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                          • rawrmonstar@social.vivaldi.netR rawrmonstar@social.vivaldi.net

                            @Viss they can already do that for free, can't they?

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                            @rawrmonstar im not sure how interacting with any frontier model at that scale could be free - if they are training their own, then its tens of millions in spend on gear to do it in-house. if theyre using the cloud, then its 5x that in cloud costs. if they are training a frontier model, then that company will probably eat the cost, but its still a shitload of engineering heavy lift to make it happen

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                            • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                              RE: https://vmst.io/@vmstan/116200819973767850

                              here comes the pivot to ads

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                              @Viss @catsalad I never understood why Jay was CEO. She should have been CTO. Wasn’t the whole software architecture pretty much her design?

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                              • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                RE: https://vmst.io/@vmstan/116200819973767850

                                here comes the pivot to ads

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                                @Viss hey don't forget PII!

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                                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                  RE: https://vmst.io/@vmstan/116200819973767850

                                  here comes the pivot to ads

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                                  @Viss do do do do

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                                  • quinn@social.circl.luQ quinn@social.circl.lu

                                    @Viss hey don't forget PII!

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                                    @quinn oh totally. option B is that they just hoover up absolutely everything on the platform and feed it in its entirety to an llm and get paid for it that way

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                                    • ramsey@phpc.socialR ramsey@phpc.social

                                      @Viss @catsalad I never understood why Jay was CEO. She should have been CTO. Wasn’t the whole software architecture pretty much her design?

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                                      @ramsey @catsalad zero clue. back when i was on bsky, for the short period i used it, none of their staff would ever reply to me or respond to me in any way - which made it all the more delicious every time they fell on their faces from problems twitter solved ten years ago that i could have trivially helped them with.

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                                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                        @ramsey @catsalad zero clue. back when i was on bsky, for the short period i used it, none of their staff would ever reply to me or respond to me in any way - which made it all the more delicious every time they fell on their faces from problems twitter solved ten years ago that i could have trivially helped them with.

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                                        @Viss @catsalad I never understood that, either. It was supposedly created as a skunkworks project within Twitter, so why the hell have they acted like they didn't have 15+ years of experience to draw from?

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                                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                          @rawrmonstar im not sure how interacting with any frontier model at that scale could be free - if they are training their own, then its tens of millions in spend on gear to do it in-house. if theyre using the cloud, then its 5x that in cloud costs. if they are training a frontier model, then that company will probably eat the cost, but its still a shitload of engineering heavy lift to make it happen

                                          rawrmonstar@social.vivaldi.netR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @Viss I meant you can access the BlueSky firehouse without a partnership with them can't you? Why would an AI company pay BlueSky when they don't need to?

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