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AI is the empowerment of "I can do X better then people who's entire careers are built around X" attitudes

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    AI is the empowerment of "I can do X better then people who's entire careers are built around X" attitudes

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      AI is the empowerment of "I can do X better then people who's entire careers are built around X" attitudes

      troed@swecyb.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @nullpo Or, hear me out, it's "I can do 80% of the boring work quickly and then focus on the fun and complicated parts".

      I'm way better than the LLM at coding. It's just a thousand times faster at parts of it so why wouldn't I use it.

      (I've had this argument before. At that time it was whether to be lazy and compile high level languages instead of writing everything in assembler)

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        @nullpo Or, hear me out, it's "I can do 80% of the boring work quickly and then focus on the fun and complicated parts".

        I'm way better than the LLM at coding. It's just a thousand times faster at parts of it so why wouldn't I use it.

        (I've had this argument before. At that time it was whether to be lazy and compile high level languages instead of writing everything in assembler)

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        @troed @nullpo

        An important difference is that abstract programming languages are deterministic, whereas LLMs are not.

        So you either spend a lot of time proofreading code nobody can explain to you, with potentially gaslighting comments, or your software gets 0wned a year later or doesn't even run in the first place.

        If that's an improvement to your previous workflow, so be it.

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          @troed @nullpo

          An important difference is that abstract programming languages are deterministic, whereas LLMs are not.

          So you either spend a lot of time proofreading code nobody can explain to you, with potentially gaslighting comments, or your software gets 0wned a year later or doesn't even run in the first place.

          If that's an improvement to your previous workflow, so be it.

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          @kallisti

          Are you trying to personsplain software development and/or cybersecurity to me?

          That's ... futile

          @nullpo

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            @kallisti

            Are you trying to personsplain software development and/or cybersecurity to me?

            That's ... futile

            @nullpo

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            @troed @nullpo

            "Personsplain", that's a new one.

            And the topic of my toot was neither of these two, it was LLMs

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              @troed @nullpo

              "Personsplain", that's a new one.

              And the topic of my toot was neither of these two, it was LLMs

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              @kallisti

              No, you're trying to splain me - who just wrote what my experiences (actual ones, not gut feelings) that LLMs are quite useful for ~80% of the work - that the code is not possible to understand.

              I'm one of the old greybeards in both software dev and cybersec. When I state that they're useful they ... are.

              @nullpo

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                @kallisti

                No, you're trying to splain me - who just wrote what my experiences (actual ones, not gut feelings) that LLMs are quite useful for ~80% of the work - that the code is not possible to understand.

                I'm one of the old greybeards in both software dev and cybersec. When I state that they're useful they ... are.

                @nullpo

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                @troed @nullpo

                Sure...

                Care to share next week's Powerball numbers while you're at it?

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                • kallisti@infosec.exchangeK kallisti@infosec.exchange

                  @troed @nullpo

                  Sure...

                  Care to share next week's Powerball numbers while you're at it?

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                  @kallisti

                  It's obvious that you have absolutely no experience of your own here - yet you try to *splain to someone who has.

                  Good work. Just useless.

                  @nullpo

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