#Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.
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#Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.
I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.
[Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
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#Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.
I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.
[Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
]@Retreival9096
How would it affect my confidence in Proton products? It can't really get any lower. And LLM use is certainly not going to make it higher.In fact it seems a good fit. The Trump/fascist supporting Proton and the Trump/fascist supporting LLM companies.
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#Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.
I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.
[Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
]@Retreival9096 @protonprivacy wtf, guys. You might want to check some actual productivity research results, or the outages on AWS and GitHub, before outsourcing your thinking to the magical parrot box.
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#Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.
I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.
[Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
]@Retreival9096 "in order to remain efficient"
If enshittification is their idea of efficiency, that casts doubt over everything they touched.
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#Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.
I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.
[Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
]@Retreival9096 I briefly played with Proton's Lumo too, and it's complete garbage, as expected. Spewed confidently wrong answers, the usual LLM bullshit.
I'm really fucking tired. I'd already migrated email to them a while ago from Google, which was a chore. Now I guess I'm going to have to do it again, to someone else. Someone else who will probably turn around and embrace LLM fuckery or some other fascist pivot.
And please don't come back at me with "host your own email". There's a limit to the cognitive load I want to merely exist in this digital hellscape. I'm almost to the point of saying fuck it and unplugging.
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#Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.
I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.
[Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
]They were always good at marketing.
Never at actually being useful -
#Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.
I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.
[Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
]@Retreival9096 Okay. Proton was on my shortlist as a candidate to replace our current mail/contacts/calendar services provider, but I’m striking it off now.
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#Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.
I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.
[Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
]@Retreival9096
I currently use Proton for VPNs. I won’t be renewing.
The one thing you need from a VPN is trustability. The one thing you don’t get from AI code is something you can 100% trust. -
#Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.
I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.
[Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
]@Retreival9096 mixing cryptography and LLMs sounds like a bad idea, damn. Even if you keep it to stuff that doesn't cross the boundary, it can still push a lot against it I bet
... Though I remember Proton overall being a bit murky as a company, in terms of political stance by CEO, and such? Not entirely sure but yeah.
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#Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.
I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.
[Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
]@Retreival9096 I have meager reach. In spite of that I add my small voice to the opposition of using llm/ai for anything.
We just began de G**gling. It's not too late to dePr*t*n.
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#Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.
I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.
[Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
]@Retreival9096 do you have the exact wording and or screenshot of their reply? What was the question that you asked them or did you ask multiple questions?
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#Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.
I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.
[Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
]@Retreival9096 I think you'll find that all actual software developers who have tried using LLMs as aid the last ~6 months agree that they are quite useful.
The people who claim differently are either 1) not actual developers or 2) haven't checked if their gut feelings agree with reality.
That said, I would most definitely not have an LLM write me a cryptographic library, but I'm also very certain Proton aren't either.
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@Retreival9096 I briefly played with Proton's Lumo too, and it's complete garbage, as expected. Spewed confidently wrong answers, the usual LLM bullshit.
I'm really fucking tired. I'd already migrated email to them a while ago from Google, which was a chore. Now I guess I'm going to have to do it again, to someone else. Someone else who will probably turn around and embrace LLM fuckery or some other fascist pivot.
And please don't come back at me with "host your own email". There's a limit to the cognitive load I want to merely exist in this digital hellscape. I'm almost to the point of saying fuck it and unplugging.
@sharpcheddargoblin @Retreival9096 this is exactly my situation (gmail to proton, a couple of years ago). i'm so tired of trying to do the right thing only to discover that it's a seemingly impossible task. i have no idea what to do/where to turn next.
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#Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.
I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.
[Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
]@Retreival9096
What's the context? It seems you are refering to some post I can't see and I curious -
@Retreival9096
What's the context? It seems you are refering to some post I can't see and I curiousMy communication style is poor. This is a new message I started, because a lot of people rely on Proton for a variety of identity protection products: VPN, secure email & calendar, etc.
And, in my opinion, their decision to use AI for coding makes their products more buggy and thus less secure.
As others have pointed out, there are other reasons not to trust Proton, including their CEO's politics.
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@sharpcheddargoblin @Retreival9096 this is exactly my situation (gmail to proton, a couple of years ago). i'm so tired of trying to do the right thing only to discover that it's a seemingly impossible task. i have no idea what to do/where to turn next.
@kathimmel @sharpcheddargoblin
... me too!
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@Retreival9096 I think you'll find that all actual software developers who have tried using LLMs as aid the last ~6 months agree that they are quite useful.
The people who claim differently are either 1) not actual developers or 2) haven't checked if their gut feelings agree with reality.
That said, I would most definitely not have an LLM write me a cryptographic library, but I'm also very certain Proton aren't either.
@troed I'm not going to argue a point where there is already a considerable body of evidence. Bye Bye!
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@kathimmel @sharpcheddargoblin
... me too!
@Retreival9096 @sharpcheddargoblin there must be some better options. just need the energy & will to find out.

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@Retreival9096 I think you'll find that all actual software developers who have tried using LLMs as aid the last ~6 months agree that they are quite useful.
The people who claim differently are either 1) not actual developers or 2) haven't checked if their gut feelings agree with reality.
That said, I would most definitely not have an LLM write me a cryptographic library, but I'm also very certain Proton aren't either.
lol. another anti-AI fanatic who is completely unable to handle their cognitive dissonance and just go direct to blocking.
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@Retreival9096 do you have the exact wording and or screenshot of their reply? What was the question that you asked them or did you ask multiple questions?
yes, I'll attach that.