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#Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.

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  • retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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    retreival9096@hachyderm.io
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    #1

    #Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
    After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.

    You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.

    I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.

    [Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
    https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
    ]

    leeloo@c.imL sero_one@mastodon.socialS yora@mastodon.gamedev.placeY sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blogS lasagne@chaos.socialL 14 Replies Last reply
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    • retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR retreival9096@hachyderm.io

      #Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
      After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.

      You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.

      I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.

      [Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
      https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
      ]

      leeloo@c.imL This user is from outside of this forum
      leeloo@c.imL This user is from outside of this forum
      leeloo@c.im
      wrote last edited by
      #2

      @Retreival9096
      How would it affect my confidence in Proton products? It can't really get any lower. And LLM use is certainly not going to make it higher.

      In fact it seems a good fit. The Trump/fascist supporting Proton and the Trump/fascist supporting LLM companies.

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      • retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR retreival9096@hachyderm.io

        #Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
        After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.

        You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.

        I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.

        [Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
        https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
        ]

        sero_one@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
        sero_one@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
        sero_one@mastodon.social
        wrote last edited by
        #3

        @Retreival9096 @protonprivacy wtf, guys. You might want to check some actual productivity research results, or the outages on AWS and GitHub, before outsourcing your thinking to the magical parrot box.

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        • retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR retreival9096@hachyderm.io

          #Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
          After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.

          You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.

          I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.

          [Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
          https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
          ]

          yora@mastodon.gamedev.placeY This user is from outside of this forum
          yora@mastodon.gamedev.placeY This user is from outside of this forum
          yora@mastodon.gamedev.place
          wrote last edited by
          #4

          @Retreival9096 "in order to remain efficient"

          If enshittification is their idea of efficiency, that casts doubt over everything they touched.

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          • retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR retreival9096@hachyderm.io

            #Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
            After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.

            You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.

            I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.

            [Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
            https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
            ]

            sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blogS This user is from outside of this forum
            sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blogS This user is from outside of this forum
            sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blog
            wrote last edited by
            #5

            @Retreival9096 I briefly played with Proton's Lumo too, and it's complete garbage, as expected. Spewed confidently wrong answers, the usual LLM bullshit.

            I'm really fucking tired. I'd already migrated email to them a while ago from Google, which was a chore. Now I guess I'm going to have to do it again, to someone else. Someone else who will probably turn around and embrace LLM fuckery or some other fascist pivot.

            And please don't come back at me with "host your own email". There's a limit to the cognitive load I want to merely exist in this digital hellscape. I'm almost to the point of saying fuck it and unplugging.

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            • retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR retreival9096@hachyderm.io

              #Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
              After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.

              You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.

              I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.

              [Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
              https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
              ]

              lasagne@chaos.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
              lasagne@chaos.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
              lasagne@chaos.social
              wrote last edited by
              #6

              @Retreival9096

              They were always good at marketing.
              Never at actually being useful

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              • retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR retreival9096@hachyderm.io

                #Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
                After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.

                You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.

                I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.

                [Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
                https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
                ]

                js@mastodon.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
                js@mastodon.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
                js@mastodon.nl
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                #7

                @Retreival9096 Okay. Proton was on my shortlist as a candidate to replace our current mail/contacts/calendar services provider, but I’m striking it off now.

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                • retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR retreival9096@hachyderm.io

                  #Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
                  After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.

                  You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.

                  I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.

                  [Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
                  https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
                  ]

                  kimsj@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  kimsj@mastodon.social
                  wrote last edited by
                  #8

                  @Retreival9096
                  I currently use Proton for VPNs. I won’t be renewing.
                  The one thing you need from a VPN is trustability. The one thing you don’t get from AI code is something you can 100% trust.

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                  • retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR retreival9096@hachyderm.io

                    #Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
                    After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.

                    You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.

                    I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.

                    [Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
                    https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
                    ]

                    saphire@dragon.styleS This user is from outside of this forum
                    saphire@dragon.styleS This user is from outside of this forum
                    saphire@dragon.style
                    wrote last edited by
                    #9

                    @Retreival9096 mixing cryptography and LLMs sounds like a bad idea, damn. Even if you keep it to stuff that doesn't cross the boundary, it can still push a lot against it I bet

                    ... Though I remember Proton overall being a bit murky as a company, in terms of political stance by CEO, and such? Not entirely sure but yeah.

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                    • retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR retreival9096@hachyderm.io

                      #Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
                      After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.

                      You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.

                      I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.

                      [Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
                      https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
                      ]

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                      howitzer105mm@pdx.social
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                      #10

                      @Retreival9096 I have meager reach. In spite of that I add my small voice to the opposition of using llm/ai for anything.

                      We just began de G**gling. It's not too late to dePr*t*n.

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                      • retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR retreival9096@hachyderm.io

                        #Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
                        After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.

                        You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.

                        I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.

                        [Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
                        https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
                        ]

                        nomadskateboarding@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                        nomadskateboarding@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                        nomadskateboarding@mastodon.social
                        wrote last edited by
                        #11

                        @Retreival9096 do you have the exact wording and or screenshot of their reply? What was the question that you asked them or did you ask multiple questions?

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                        • retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR retreival9096@hachyderm.io

                          #Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
                          After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.

                          You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.

                          I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.

                          [Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
                          https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
                          ]

                          troed@swecyb.comT This user is from outside of this forum
                          troed@swecyb.comT This user is from outside of this forum
                          troed@swecyb.com
                          wrote last edited by
                          #12

                          @Retreival9096 I think you'll find that all actual software developers who have tried using LLMs as aid the last ~6 months agree that they are quite useful.

                          The people who claim differently are either 1) not actual developers or 2) haven't checked if their gut feelings agree with reality.

                          That said, I would most definitely not have an LLM write me a cryptographic library, but I'm also very certain Proton aren't either.

                          retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR troed@swecyb.comT gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.luG 3 Replies Last reply
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                          • sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blogS sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blog

                            @Retreival9096 I briefly played with Proton's Lumo too, and it's complete garbage, as expected. Spewed confidently wrong answers, the usual LLM bullshit.

                            I'm really fucking tired. I'd already migrated email to them a while ago from Google, which was a chore. Now I guess I'm going to have to do it again, to someone else. Someone else who will probably turn around and embrace LLM fuckery or some other fascist pivot.

                            And please don't come back at me with "host your own email". There's a limit to the cognitive load I want to merely exist in this digital hellscape. I'm almost to the point of saying fuck it and unplugging.

                            kathimmel@mstdn.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            kathimmel@mstdn.social
                            wrote last edited by
                            #13

                            @sharpcheddargoblin @Retreival9096 this is exactly my situation (gmail to proton, a couple of years ago). i'm so tired of trying to do the right thing only to discover that it's a seemingly impossible task. i have no idea what to do/where to turn next.

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                            • retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR retreival9096@hachyderm.io

                              #Proton #AI #LLM #AISlop
                              After sending an inquiry to Proton support, I have been informed that "in order to remain efficient" they are trying "pilot programs" using LLMs to assist in coding their products.

                              You might want to contact Andy Yen if this choice of his affects your confidence in Proton products.

                              I don't often ask for boosts, but I would like this to be as visible as it can.

                              [Edit: Add link to message with text of my question, and their response:
                              https://hachyderm.io/deck/@Retreival9096/116506589735214968
                              ]

                              yaarur@tooot.imY This user is from outside of this forum
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                              yaarur@tooot.im
                              wrote last edited by
                              #14

                              @Retreival9096
                              What's the context? It seems you are refering to some post I can't see and I curious

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                              • yaarur@tooot.imY yaarur@tooot.im

                                @Retreival9096
                                What's the context? It seems you are refering to some post I can't see and I curious

                                retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                retreival9096@hachyderm.io
                                wrote last edited by
                                #15

                                @yaarur

                                My communication style is poor. This is a new message I started, because a lot of people rely on Proton for a variety of identity protection products: VPN, secure email & calendar, etc.

                                And, in my opinion, their decision to use AI for coding makes their products more buggy and thus less secure.

                                As others have pointed out, there are other reasons not to trust Proton, including their CEO's politics.

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                                • kathimmel@mstdn.socialK kathimmel@mstdn.social

                                  @sharpcheddargoblin @Retreival9096 this is exactly my situation (gmail to proton, a couple of years ago). i'm so tired of trying to do the right thing only to discover that it's a seemingly impossible task. i have no idea what to do/where to turn next.

                                  retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  retreival9096@hachyderm.io
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @kathimmel @sharpcheddargoblin

                                  ... me too!

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                                  • troed@swecyb.comT troed@swecyb.com

                                    @Retreival9096 I think you'll find that all actual software developers who have tried using LLMs as aid the last ~6 months agree that they are quite useful.

                                    The people who claim differently are either 1) not actual developers or 2) haven't checked if their gut feelings agree with reality.

                                    That said, I would most definitely not have an LLM write me a cryptographic library, but I'm also very certain Proton aren't either.

                                    retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    retreival9096@hachyderm.io
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @troed I'm not going to argue a point where there is already a considerable body of evidence. Bye Bye!

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                                    • retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR retreival9096@hachyderm.io

                                      @kathimmel @sharpcheddargoblin

                                      ... me too!

                                      kathimmel@mstdn.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      kathimmel@mstdn.social
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #18

                                      @Retreival9096 @sharpcheddargoblin there must be some better options. just need the energy & will to find out. 😕

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                                      • troed@swecyb.comT troed@swecyb.com

                                        @Retreival9096 I think you'll find that all actual software developers who have tried using LLMs as aid the last ~6 months agree that they are quite useful.

                                        The people who claim differently are either 1) not actual developers or 2) haven't checked if their gut feelings agree with reality.

                                        That said, I would most definitely not have an LLM write me a cryptographic library, but I'm also very certain Proton aren't either.

                                        troed@swecyb.comT This user is from outside of this forum
                                        troed@swecyb.comT This user is from outside of this forum
                                        troed@swecyb.com
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #19

                                        lol. another anti-AI fanatic who is completely unable to handle their cognitive dissonance and just go direct to blocking.

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                                        • nomadskateboarding@mastodon.socialN nomadskateboarding@mastodon.social

                                          @Retreival9096 do you have the exact wording and or screenshot of their reply? What was the question that you asked them or did you ask multiple questions?

                                          retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          retreival9096@hachyderm.io
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #20

                                          @nomadskateboarding

                                          yes, I'll attach that.

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