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@IanDSmith and they call me crazy when I buy cd's in a charity shop.

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I'm not seeing how they made CDs and DVDs harder to use. You shove them into a drive, same as always.Nobody forced you to subscribe to a streaming service. All of my music is still on local storage. A copy of everything sits on a USB stick plugged into my car radio, a copy sits on microSD in my phone.
Nobody made you give up phones with removable storage - you stopped buying them.
Don't blame industry for selling you what you asked for.
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@IanDSmith @pluralistic has a good blog on this. Blame Clinton. https://locusmag.com/feature/commentary-cory-doctorow-not-normal/
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@IanDSmith and they call me crazy when I buy cd's in a charity shop.

@CyclesSmiles @IanDSmith I'm well into this now!
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I'm not seeing how they made CDs and DVDs harder to use. You shove them into a drive, same as always.Nobody forced you to subscribe to a streaming service. All of my music is still on local storage. A copy of everything sits on a USB stick plugged into my car radio, a copy sits on microSD in my phone.
Nobody made you give up phones with removable storage - you stopped buying them.
Don't blame industry for selling you what you asked for.
@hyc @IanDSmith what drive? Laptops don't have them as standard anymore. Most cars don't (happily ours does). People rarely add them to desktop builds.
They aren't a default inclusion now and most people lack access.And who is 'you'? Ffs.
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@hyc @IanDSmith what drive? Laptops don't have them as standard anymore. Most cars don't (happily ours does). People rarely add them to desktop builds.
They aren't a default inclusion now and most people lack access.And who is 'you'? Ffs.
@noodlemaz @IanDSmith It really doesn't matter that they're not built into laptop or desktop PCs any more. USB DVD drives are dirt cheap and you can move them freely between laptop and desktop. https://www.amazon.co.uk/External-CD-Drive-Portable-Optical/dp/B0F9KF47H2
Using optical discs in cars just gets them scratched. Far better to copy the discs to a USB flash drive, that's impervious to shock or vibration.
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@noodlemaz @IanDSmith It really doesn't matter that they're not built into laptop or desktop PCs any more. USB DVD drives are dirt cheap and you can move them freely between laptop and desktop. https://www.amazon.co.uk/External-CD-Drive-Portable-Optical/dp/B0F9KF47H2
Using optical discs in cars just gets them scratched. Far better to copy the discs to a USB flash drive, that's impervious to shock or vibration.
the drive I linked above costs less than 1 month of a spotify subscription. It's a no-brainer.
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@IanDSmith If you (as in anyone) have the resources (as in money,room, and time) you could build a simple Linux media server using free and open source software. The most expensive thing unfortunately nowadays will be the drives.
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@IanDSmith
I'm not seeing how they made CDs and DVDs harder to use. You shove them into a drive, same as always.Nobody forced you to subscribe to a streaming service. All of my music is still on local storage. A copy of everything sits on a USB stick plugged into my car radio, a copy sits on microSD in my phone.
Nobody made you give up phones with removable storage - you stopped buying them.
Don't blame industry for selling you what you asked for.
@hyc
Fewer bands release a disc every year.
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@noodlemaz @IanDSmith It really doesn't matter that they're not built into laptop or desktop PCs any more. USB DVD drives are dirt cheap and you can move them freely between laptop and desktop. https://www.amazon.co.uk/External-CD-Drive-Portable-Optical/dp/B0F9KF47H2
Using optical discs in cars just gets them scratched. Far better to copy the discs to a USB flash drive, that's impervious to shock or vibration.
@hyc @noodlemaz @IanDSmith portable CD players with USB out can actually plug into the dash of any modern car and just work, you can pick them up off the shelf a lot of places still, most shops with car parts will have them as well, they only cost a few $ more than a normal external drive but they also are made to play back while moving so they won't scratch up the disk.
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@hyc @noodlemaz @IanDSmith portable CD players with USB out can actually plug into the dash of any modern car and just work, you can pick them up off the shelf a lot of places still, most shops with car parts will have them as well, they only cost a few $ more than a normal external drive but they also are made to play back while moving so they won't scratch up the disk.
@hyc @noodlemaz @IanDSmith (also radio still exists and works just fine for free, local radio stations tend to still play plenty of new music and frankly they seem to have LESS ads than the streaming services do these days)
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@IanDSmith Push back. Buy physical media. External optical drives are cheap and readily available.
We don't have to accept this future as inevitable. I just pre-ordered the latest release of an artist on CD.
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@IanDSmith @David have you never heard of our lord and savior The Pirate Bay?
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@IanDSmith Nah, this is two-sided and I think it's very important not to forget that.
We stopped buying optical drives or spending extra to get them because we just weren't using them. Yes it's an active choice we made. They stopped putting them in devices because too few were buying them.
The removable storage in phones was more active on the corporate side I admit. Apple convinced people they didn't need it and Google saw them getting away with it, so did the same. A lot outside the Pixel line still have it though because it's a more open ecosystem.
People chose streaming subscriptions because they like on demand video watching.
Always online assumed to be normal probably happened 99.9% on our side. We got too used to it I guess.
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@IanDSmith Nah, this is two-sided and I think it's very important not to forget that.
We stopped buying optical drives or spending extra to get them because we just weren't using them. Yes it's an active choice we made. They stopped putting them in devices because too few were buying them.
The removable storage in phones was more active on the corporate side I admit. Apple convinced people they didn't need it and Google saw them getting away with it, so did the same. A lot outside the Pixel line still have it though because it's a more open ecosystem.
People chose streaming subscriptions because they like on demand video watching.
Always online assumed to be normal probably happened 99.9% on our side. We got too used to it I guess.
@IanDSmith The prices are them, but they're because they can do it. We refuse to put our collective foot down. We can always say "too much! I won't buy that!" But as long as we keep buying it, they can keep raising it.
Which goes to all the things. We can actively choose not to go along with those things. Every step of the way we, as a whole, have chosen not to stop it from going the direction it went. Sometimes people went on tirades "if you stop buying physical media it will disappear and you'll have problems accessing the content you paid for." People brushed them aside.
Yes they get half the blame here, but only half...
And we, as a whole, can still reverse all this if we ever actually want to, but we have to want to as a whole. And we don't.
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