Linux accessibility isn't going to improve until more disabled people use Linux.
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Linux accessibility isn't going to improve until more disabled people use Linux. This really, really sucks, but we have to file the issues. We have to build the stuff. And I say we, not I, because I can't handle a job and trying to vibe code stuff into working when I don't know what I'm doing, and don't know good design. Honestly I do much better vibe coding my own stuff from scratch.
Anyway if we want freedom, we have to fight for it. And since the issues we create will be public, we can show them off. Pass them around for people to duplicate, comment on, and fix. And since Linux and its desktops are all open source, if they won't accept a vibe coded, but working, fix, we can fork it and use it ourselves. I'm on Linux right now. I know at least one other person on Mastodon is also on Linux that's blind. There's the Orca mailing list, Blinux list, and Stormux list with other blind Linux users. If you want freedom, you, sadly, must work for it.
If we get enough people on Linux, the organizations for the blind will get the hint, just like they did for Mastodon. So if you don't like big tech, or you don't like the accessibility issues plaguing the OS and spreading like a plague, or you want to own your computing environment, come on in. The water isn't fine, I'd say, but it's not as much of a chaotic ocean as it was even a few years ago.
Go with Fedora, or another distribution that has an up-to-date accessibility system. Orca 49 is the newest. I don't know what #Elementary has but the developer would love feedback.
People who I'd recommend stay away are those who use Braille as their primary reading method. Linux so isn't ready for that yet, unless you know the command line and only want to use that. Also there is no grade 2 Braille entry. Yeah that really sucks. But the basics are there, and if enough Braille users hack at it, we can lower that ladder. Also there's not plugin support for Orca yet. That's being worked on. But you can always create your own tools, and set keyboard commands for them. You can even set keyboard commands to programs in Mate's keyboard settings.
@LeonianUniverse @pixelate so you are using fedora with mate?
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Linux accessibility isn't going to improve until more disabled people use Linux. This really, really sucks, but we have to file the issues. We have to build the stuff. And I say we, not I, because I can't handle a job and trying to vibe code stuff into working when I don't know what I'm doing, and don't know good design. Honestly I do much better vibe coding my own stuff from scratch.
Anyway if we want freedom, we have to fight for it. And since the issues we create will be public, we can show them off. Pass them around for people to duplicate, comment on, and fix. And since Linux and its desktops are all open source, if they won't accept a vibe coded, but working, fix, we can fork it and use it ourselves. I'm on Linux right now. I know at least one other person on Mastodon is also on Linux that's blind. There's the Orca mailing list, Blinux list, and Stormux list with other blind Linux users. If you want freedom, you, sadly, must work for it.
If we get enough people on Linux, the organizations for the blind will get the hint, just like they did for Mastodon. So if you don't like big tech, or you don't like the accessibility issues plaguing the OS and spreading like a plague, or you want to own your computing environment, come on in. The water isn't fine, I'd say, but it's not as much of a chaotic ocean as it was even a few years ago.
Go with Fedora, or another distribution that has an up-to-date accessibility system. Orca 49 is the newest. I don't know what #Elementary has but the developer would love feedback.
People who I'd recommend stay away are those who use Braille as their primary reading method. Linux so isn't ready for that yet, unless you know the command line and only want to use that. Also there is no grade 2 Braille entry. Yeah that really sucks. But the basics are there, and if enough Braille users hack at it, we can lower that ladder. Also there's not plugin support for Orca yet. That's being worked on. But you can always create your own tools, and set keyboard commands for them. You can even set keyboard commands to programs in Mate's keyboard settings.
@pixelate Honestly, I was waiting for KDE implementation. That never came, and it seems to be nowhere in sight, which is pretty sad in my opinion.
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@pixelate Honestly, I was waiting for KDE implementation. That never came, and it seems to be nowhere in sight, which is pretty sad in my opinion.
@Rosalyn Yeah, it is pretty sad. Accessibility, especially on open source, requires constant pressure or everyone just kinda forgets, I guess.
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@LeonianUniverse @pixelate so you are using fedora with mate?
@vol4life8657 @LeonianUniverse Yes, I am.
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@Rosalyn Yeah, it is pretty sad. Accessibility, especially on open source, requires constant pressure or everyone just kinda forgets, I guess.
@pixelate Well and I think the assumption is that blind people must want terminil based operating systems. I just want a good GUI.
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@pixelate Well and I think the assumption is that blind people must want terminil based operating systems. I just want a good GUI.
@Rosalyn Yep, that's what I want too. I want to be able to choose. If I want the command line, I want to run it on a desktop environment like everyone else does.
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Linux accessibility isn't going to improve until more disabled people use Linux. This really, really sucks, but we have to file the issues. We have to build the stuff. And I say we, not I, because I can't handle a job and trying to vibe code stuff into working when I don't know what I'm doing, and don't know good design. Honestly I do much better vibe coding my own stuff from scratch.
Anyway if we want freedom, we have to fight for it. And since the issues we create will be public, we can show them off. Pass them around for people to duplicate, comment on, and fix. And since Linux and its desktops are all open source, if they won't accept a vibe coded, but working, fix, we can fork it and use it ourselves. I'm on Linux right now. I know at least one other person on Mastodon is also on Linux that's blind. There's the Orca mailing list, Blinux list, and Stormux list with other blind Linux users. If you want freedom, you, sadly, must work for it.
If we get enough people on Linux, the organizations for the blind will get the hint, just like they did for Mastodon. So if you don't like big tech, or you don't like the accessibility issues plaguing the OS and spreading like a plague, or you want to own your computing environment, come on in. The water isn't fine, I'd say, but it's not as much of a chaotic ocean as it was even a few years ago.
Go with Fedora, or another distribution that has an up-to-date accessibility system. Orca 49 is the newest. I don't know what #Elementary has but the developer would love feedback.
People who I'd recommend stay away are those who use Braille as their primary reading method. Linux so isn't ready for that yet, unless you know the command line and only want to use that. Also there is no grade 2 Braille entry. Yeah that really sucks. But the basics are there, and if enough Braille users hack at it, we can lower that ladder. Also there's not plugin support for Orca yet. That's being worked on. But you can always create your own tools, and set keyboard commands for them. You can even set keyboard commands to programs in Mate's keyboard settings.
@pixelate Yes but why would I learn an entirely different operating system when what I use, although it has issues, does what I need it to?
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Linux accessibility isn't going to improve until more disabled people use Linux. This really, really sucks, but we have to file the issues. We have to build the stuff. And I say we, not I, because I can't handle a job and trying to vibe code stuff into working when I don't know what I'm doing, and don't know good design. Honestly I do much better vibe coding my own stuff from scratch.
Anyway if we want freedom, we have to fight for it. And since the issues we create will be public, we can show them off. Pass them around for people to duplicate, comment on, and fix. And since Linux and its desktops are all open source, if they won't accept a vibe coded, but working, fix, we can fork it and use it ourselves. I'm on Linux right now. I know at least one other person on Mastodon is also on Linux that's blind. There's the Orca mailing list, Blinux list, and Stormux list with other blind Linux users. If you want freedom, you, sadly, must work for it.
If we get enough people on Linux, the organizations for the blind will get the hint, just like they did for Mastodon. So if you don't like big tech, or you don't like the accessibility issues plaguing the OS and spreading like a plague, or you want to own your computing environment, come on in. The water isn't fine, I'd say, but it's not as much of a chaotic ocean as it was even a few years ago.
Go with Fedora, or another distribution that has an up-to-date accessibility system. Orca 49 is the newest. I don't know what #Elementary has but the developer would love feedback.
People who I'd recommend stay away are those who use Braille as their primary reading method. Linux so isn't ready for that yet, unless you know the command line and only want to use that. Also there is no grade 2 Braille entry. Yeah that really sucks. But the basics are there, and if enough Braille users hack at it, we can lower that ladder. Also there's not plugin support for Orca yet. That's being worked on. But you can always create your own tools, and set keyboard commands for them. You can even set keyboard commands to programs in Mate's keyboard settings.
@pixelate What upsets me, is how easy Orca can just, flop over dead. Or the whole system rather can just crash so easily. Or the amount of knowledge you need to not break something important. The trillions of distros out there are overwelming.
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@pixelate Yes but why would I learn an entirely different operating system when what I use, although it has issues, does what I need it to?
@technocounselor For when it doesn't. Or when the issues become too hard to deal with. Of course, not every blind person cares about this, but when things are open source, they can be changed by the users. If you can vibe code, you don't even have to wait for the organization or person behind the software to fix it, and you certainly don't have to wait for Microsoft to notice or Apple to care.
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@pixelate What upsets me, is how easy Orca can just, flop over dead. Or the whole system rather can just crash so easily. Or the amount of knowledge you need to not break something important. The trillions of distros out there are overwelming.
@Blobsta Orca now has a system service, so it flops over, sometimes it can get back up.
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@Blobsta Orca now has a system service, so it flops over, sometimes it can get back up.
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