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There’s a limited supply of oil.

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  • tymwol@hachyderm.ioT tymwol@hachyderm.io

    @zappes @nickofnz you mean this? https://thesciencesurvey.com/news/2025/07/06/the-world-sand-crisis/

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    @tymwol @nickofnz Well, capitalism manages to enshittify everything it touches, that's true. But this is not a problem of silicon being rare, it is one of greedy people doing greedy people stuff.

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    • drq@mastodon.mlD drq@mastodon.ml

      @nickofnz

      > It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

      ... Yet.

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      @drq @nickofnz Those wars will hopefully be fought in low-earth orbit, and be short and spaced well apart in time due to Kessler Syndrome.

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      • tymwol@hachyderm.ioT tymwol@hachyderm.io

        @nickofnz I'm all for renewable technologies, however sorry, but I think that this kind of over-simplistic arguments using in the discourse are more harmful than useful.

        First, solar is nor unlimited (night, cloudy weather) and has environmental costs like solar panels taking land, etc. Second, solar panels need silicon which is not unlimited, and 80% of it comes from China, so it is easy to imagine how politics and possible wars can also easily disrupt it. So, in a sense, there is a limited supply of solar as well, and wars can also be fought for it.

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        @tymwol @nickofnz In terms of land, we have a load of it that's being wasted on a single use (buildings, roads, monocrops) that are prime candidates to gain a second use. Put a relatively small number of PV panels on your house and you've removed 20-25 years' worth of fuel being burnt to supply you with electricity.

        In addition, the vast majority of material in the panels is recyclable; even better, potentially reusable.

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        • kravietz@agora.echelon.plK kravietz@agora.echelon.pl

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          Not quite. 85% of the whole PV supply chain is controlled by one country - #China

          Just a moment...

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          (www.iea.org)

          Not saying PV is wrong on itself, but the current European model of "energy transformation" where all manufacturing was outsourced to a hostile country is just as suicidal as previous outsourcing of fossil fuels to Russia.

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          @kravietz @nickofnz The degradation of manufacturing capability, and the externalisation of the damage it incurs to other parts of the world, was an unconscionable mistake. Happily it's one that can and must be addressed.

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