Wondering what journalists might be interested in the news story of an ICE agent negligently discharging his gun through the walls of a hotel he was staying at.
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@deviantollam Can you just lie in FOIA requests about why you're requesting it? I've never had the need to look into it.
@deviantollam @ligniform it's on this page of ongoing ICE coverage https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426
You have to keep scrolling down and clicking "load more" to get back to Jan. 20. I didn't see a way to link it directly.(Please forgive any errors in the OCR alt text; it took me ages to scroll all that way down and then I accidentally clicked back before I copied the article text.)
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@huntingdon the police report describes him as attempting to re-attach a part that fell off of his pistol (the backstrap) and he didn't unload the gun before servicing it
LOL. Didn't unload the gun? It went off by accident? What else would an ICE goon tell the local police?
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@deviantollam “do not attempt to modify a loaded firearm with it pointed at yourself” seems pretty obvious, and yet…
@ryan @deviantollam
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The police report is a hoot though... "On 12/18/2025 at approximately 1927 hours, I, Officer Wayde Anderson #194, and other officers were dispatched to the Hampton Inn located at 3000 Eagandale Place in the city of Eagan for a weapons call. Dispatch notes indicated that federal agents were staying in room 322, and an agent's firearm had been fired in the room. I arrived and made contact with the federal agent in question whom I identified as Bradley Shaver. Bradley wasn't injured; however, I observed a hole in his sweatshirt that I later learned was caused by the fired 9mm round."
"Bradley's supervisor, Adam Autio, was contacted and informed of the incident. The firearm, as well as two magazines, 28 unfired 9mm rounds, the "backstrap", the fired casing, and fabric from Bradley's clothing were entered into evidence for safekeeping. Adam informed officers he would be picking up the firearm for processing."
This part is wild...
"As he was doing this, he heard a very loud bang. Initially he thought the gunshot came from somewhere else and he yelled 'shots fired!' and then told his wife he had to go and hung up. Shaver then felt heat on the left side of his body, looked down and saw the damage to his shirt and realized the shot had some from his own weapon."
@deviantollam I think I'll invent a switch on a gun that prevents it from going off, to help prevent this kind of thing
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The police report is a hoot though... "On 12/18/2025 at approximately 1927 hours, I, Officer Wayde Anderson #194, and other officers were dispatched to the Hampton Inn located at 3000 Eagandale Place in the city of Eagan for a weapons call. Dispatch notes indicated that federal agents were staying in room 322, and an agent's firearm had been fired in the room. I arrived and made contact with the federal agent in question whom I identified as Bradley Shaver. Bradley wasn't injured; however, I observed a hole in his sweatshirt that I later learned was caused by the fired 9mm round."
"Bradley's supervisor, Adam Autio, was contacted and informed of the incident. The firearm, as well as two magazines, 28 unfired 9mm rounds, the "backstrap", the fired casing, and fabric from Bradley's clothing were entered into evidence for safekeeping. Adam informed officers he would be picking up the firearm for processing."
This part is wild...
"As he was doing this, he heard a very loud bang. Initially he thought the gunshot came from somewhere else and he yelled 'shots fired!' and then told his wife he had to go and hung up. Shaver then felt heat on the left side of his body, looked down and saw the damage to his shirt and realized the shot had some from his own weapon."
Being from the UK, it's a while since I've handled a pistol. That said, I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen to anybody competent to hold a gun.
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Also, I see ICE is big into having physically fit thugs...
@Jason844 @deviantollam @radleybalko
Right? He has the withered arse of a man who never walks.
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Wondering what journalists might be interested in the news story of an ICE agent negligently discharging his gun through the walls of a hotel he was staying at.
Folk FOIA'd the police report and such...
Report and BWC from Firearm Discharge in Hotel
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...there are some choice photos. I don't think it's been picked up by any news outlets, though.
This evidence is available, but it likely needs a journalist or someone else similar who can curate it and package it up for easy public digestion.
@deviantollam pure speculation, but it looks a lot like he was practicing drawing from concealment to the retention position and forgot he had one in the pipe.
Maybe his shirt got snagged in his gut crevice.
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@deviantollam I think I'll invent a switch on a gun that prevents it from going off, to help prevent this kind of thing
@Retreival9096 that would be a good thing to have, indeed!
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The police report is a hoot though... "On 12/18/2025 at approximately 1927 hours, I, Officer Wayde Anderson #194, and other officers were dispatched to the Hampton Inn located at 3000 Eagandale Place in the city of Eagan for a weapons call. Dispatch notes indicated that federal agents were staying in room 322, and an agent's firearm had been fired in the room. I arrived and made contact with the federal agent in question whom I identified as Bradley Shaver. Bradley wasn't injured; however, I observed a hole in his sweatshirt that I later learned was caused by the fired 9mm round."
"Bradley's supervisor, Adam Autio, was contacted and informed of the incident. The firearm, as well as two magazines, 28 unfired 9mm rounds, the "backstrap", the fired casing, and fabric from Bradley's clothing were entered into evidence for safekeeping. Adam informed officers he would be picking up the firearm for processing."
This part is wild...
"As he was doing this, he heard a very loud bang. Initially he thought the gunshot came from somewhere else and he yelled 'shots fired!' and then told his wife he had to go and hung up. Shaver then felt heat on the left side of his body, looked down and saw the damage to his shirt and realized the shot had some from his own weapon."
@deviantollam Someone needs to learn to keep their booger hook off the bang switch.
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@deviantollam kudos to the Eagan PD for releasing the documents so quickly!
@RichSPK They responded to a community member's FOIA request. (And repeated FOIA pinging, it would seem)
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@Retreival9096 that would be a good thing to have, indeed!
It's a shame that there's no concept that maybe arms should be collected into a safe location for storage when not in service.
Granted, that would make it hard to masturbate, so I guess that's out.
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@deviantollam @ligniform it's on this page of ongoing ICE coverage https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426
You have to keep scrolling down and clicking "load more" to get back to Jan. 20. I didn't see a way to link it directly.(Please forgive any errors in the OCR alt text; it took me ages to scroll all that way down and then I accidentally clicked back before I copied the article text.)
@kimchitea @deviantollam @ligniform "attempted to change a part"? Was it not loaded and they didn't know what a mag is? Do they remove the slide and add before the go in? Are they talking about a sight? A surpressor?
EDIT: Sorry, I hadn't read the rest of it when I posted that, so I didn't know they specified. The wording was bothering me too much to not post what I originally did, but I'm hoping this edit will dispell the misinformation I inadvertantly spread.
EDIT 2: Wait, back up, this guy was messing with that WHILE THE GUN WAS LOADED?! Either this guy is quite possibly the dumbest gun owner alive or this story is bullshit and his did something either more dumb or more malicious.
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@kimchitea @deviantollam @ligniform "attempted to change a part"? Was it not loaded and they didn't know what a mag is? Do they remove the slide and add before the go in? Are they talking about a sight? A surpressor?
EDIT: Sorry, I hadn't read the rest of it when I posted that, so I didn't know they specified. The wording was bothering me too much to not post what I originally did, but I'm hoping this edit will dispell the misinformation I inadvertantly spread.
EDIT 2: Wait, back up, this guy was messing with that WHILE THE GUN WAS LOADED?! Either this guy is quite possibly the dumbest gun owner alive or this story is bullshit and his did something either more dumb or more malicious.
@kimchitea @deviantollam @ligniform @disorderlyf Hahahaha this is the shit you read about, but truly can't imagine someone stupid enough to do it.
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@kimchitea @deviantollam @ligniform "attempted to change a part"? Was it not loaded and they didn't know what a mag is? Do they remove the slide and add before the go in? Are they talking about a sight? A surpressor?
EDIT: Sorry, I hadn't read the rest of it when I posted that, so I didn't know they specified. The wording was bothering me too much to not post what I originally did, but I'm hoping this edit will dispell the misinformation I inadvertantly spread.
EDIT 2: Wait, back up, this guy was messing with that WHILE THE GUN WAS LOADED?! Either this guy is quite possibly the dumbest gun owner alive or this story is bullshit and his did something either more dumb or more malicious.
@disorderlyf @kimchitea @deviantollam @ligniform
Backstrap, the back part of the grip. I'm pretty sure you have to remove the slide to do it. Not... really sure why'd you be messing with that "in the field", but I guess we're already failing basic gun safety, so I doubt they should really be trusted with a fork much less a gun
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It's a shame that there's no concept that maybe arms should be collected into a safe location for storage when not in service.
Granted, that would make it hard to masturbate, so I guess that's out.
@deviantollam @Retreival9096 @jrconlin not only a mechanism, but the concept of...caution? Some sort of training perhaps to reduce such negligence?
Ugh, it's so unfortunate that this is so new of a problem! We couldn't have possibly stopped this.
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@disorderlyf @kimchitea @deviantollam @ligniform
Backstrap, the back part of the grip. I'm pretty sure you have to remove the slide to do it. Not... really sure why'd you be messing with that "in the field", but I guess we're already failing basic gun safety, so I doubt they should really be trusted with a fork much less a gun
@theredlongitude @disorderlyf @kimchitea @deviantollam @ligniform depends on model but I’ve got a few that don’t. It’s a roll pin at the bottom and it fits into a grove at the top right before the thumbs well. I wouldn’t do it loaded anyway, you have to put a few good hits in the pin to move it. S&W99 and its Walther cousin were like that.
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Wondering what journalists might be interested in the news story of an ICE agent negligently discharging his gun through the walls of a hotel he was staying at.
Folk FOIA'd the police report and such...
Report and BWC from Firearm Discharge in Hotel
MuckRock is a collaborative news site that gives you the tools to hold the government accountable.
MuckRock (www.muckrock.com)
...there are some choice photos. I don't think it's been picked up by any news outlets, though.
This evidence is available, but it likely needs a journalist or someone else similar who can curate it and package it up for easy public digestion.
And best it's negligent discharge, has anyone checked for blood splatter?
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And best it's negligent discharge, has anyone checked for blood splatter?
@kevinrns local PD came and investigated and verified that the room into which the round was discharged was unoccupied at the time.
Although, it was a near miss... Someone had been assigned that room by the front desk and was actually in the hallway proceeding towards the room when the agent fired his weapon.
The other hotel guest heard the shot and thought some piece of equipment had experienced a catastrophic failure in a wall or something.
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Wondering what journalists might be interested in the news story of an ICE agent negligently discharging his gun through the walls of a hotel he was staying at.
Folk FOIA'd the police report and such...
Report and BWC from Firearm Discharge in Hotel
MuckRock is a collaborative news site that gives you the tools to hold the government accountable.
MuckRock (www.muckrock.com)
...there are some choice photos. I don't think it's been picked up by any news outlets, though.
This evidence is available, but it likely needs a journalist or someone else similar who can curate it and package it up for easy public digestion.
@deviantollam What a shithole
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@RichSPK They responded to a community member's FOIA request. (And repeated FOIA pinging, it would seem)
@deviantollam yeah, I saw that. I think my local PD, and certainly the White House, would have drawn out a FOIA request much longer.
