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Full disclosure in computer security still exists and is complementary to other disclosure models.

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  • adulau@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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    Full disclosure in computer security still exists and is complementary to other disclosure models. The evolution of vulnerability disclosure is not linear from full disclosure to responsible disclosure to coordinated disclosure. These models coexist and all need to be taken into account.

    You can’t just say “the legal framework will solve it” or “just do coordinated disclosure.” Vendors, researchers, and users are not all rational actors playing the same game.

    Vulnerability disclosure is more complex than that, and if you actually want to address the issue, you can’t just say “it doesn’t exist.”

    #cve #gcve #vulnerabilitymanagement #cybersecurity #fulldisclosure #vulnerability

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    • adulau@infosec.exchangeA adulau@infosec.exchange

      Full disclosure in computer security still exists and is complementary to other disclosure models. The evolution of vulnerability disclosure is not linear from full disclosure to responsible disclosure to coordinated disclosure. These models coexist and all need to be taken into account.

      You can’t just say “the legal framework will solve it” or “just do coordinated disclosure.” Vendors, researchers, and users are not all rational actors playing the same game.

      Vulnerability disclosure is more complex than that, and if you actually want to address the issue, you can’t just say “it doesn’t exist.”

      #cve #gcve #vulnerabilitymanagement #cybersecurity #fulldisclosure #vulnerability

      sergedroz@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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      @adulau fully agree. This is part of a larger governance discussion we avoid: How do we deal with different type of actors, which we can't contractually bind. I think it's also something we have to solve with regards to open source. You can't just take the old paradigms and say there is nothing else. It's something we constantly run into at the Geneva dialogue. What is clear, is that there needs to be more people at the table.

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        @adulau fully agree. This is part of a larger governance discussion we avoid: How do we deal with different type of actors, which we can't contractually bind. I think it's also something we have to solve with regards to open source. You can't just take the old paradigms and say there is nothing else. It's something we constantly run into at the Geneva dialogue. What is clear, is that there needs to be more people at the table.

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        @sergedroz @adulau

        Therein lies the chasm between operators and government. Operators, of necessity, deal with everyone, until they don't, and they depeer. Governments try not to deal with anyone else, until they have to, by which point it's generally too late to be useful.
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        • adulau@infosec.exchangeA adulau@infosec.exchange

          Full disclosure in computer security still exists and is complementary to other disclosure models. The evolution of vulnerability disclosure is not linear from full disclosure to responsible disclosure to coordinated disclosure. These models coexist and all need to be taken into account.

          You can’t just say “the legal framework will solve it” or “just do coordinated disclosure.” Vendors, researchers, and users are not all rational actors playing the same game.

          Vulnerability disclosure is more complex than that, and if you actually want to address the issue, you can’t just say “it doesn’t exist.”

          #cve #gcve #vulnerabilitymanagement #cybersecurity #fulldisclosure #vulnerability

          aristot73@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @adulau context?

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          • adulau@infosec.exchangeA adulau@infosec.exchange

            Full disclosure in computer security still exists and is complementary to other disclosure models. The evolution of vulnerability disclosure is not linear from full disclosure to responsible disclosure to coordinated disclosure. These models coexist and all need to be taken into account.

            You can’t just say “the legal framework will solve it” or “just do coordinated disclosure.” Vendors, researchers, and users are not all rational actors playing the same game.

            Vulnerability disclosure is more complex than that, and if you actually want to address the issue, you can’t just say “it doesn’t exist.”

            #cve #gcve #vulnerabilitymanagement #cybersecurity #fulldisclosure #vulnerability

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            @adulau it is healthy in a system where the actors having all the lawyers keeps in the back of their mind that there might be someone, somewhere, who will simply publish that vulnerability they tried to bury under legalese.

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              @adulau context?

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              @aristot73 It was when writing this blog post

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              Acknowledging Reality in Vulnerability Disclosure

              Full Disclosure Still Exists and That’s Exactly the Point

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              Alexandre Dulaunoy - adulau - Home Page (www.foo.be)

              I was able to shim in the famous balkanisation term.

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              • rafi0t@social.yoyodyne-it.euR rafi0t@social.yoyodyne-it.eu

                @adulau it is healthy in a system where the actors having all the lawyers keeps in the back of their mind that there might be someone, somewhere, who will simply publish that vulnerability they tried to bury under legalese.

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                @rafi0t @adulau

                there is no coordinated disclosure if there is no possibility for full disclosure.

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                  @rafi0t @adulau

                  there is no coordinated disclosure if there is no possibility for full disclosure.

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                  @aristot73

                  ☯️

                  @rafi0t

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