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  3. The only way you can say this with a straight face is if you are (a) willfully lying or (b) sufficiently arrogant to think that your opinions are truth handed down on tablets and those who disagree just lack your wisdom.

The only way you can say this with a straight face is if you are (a) willfully lying or (b) sufficiently arrogant to think that your opinions are truth handed down on tablets and those who disagree just lack your wisdom.

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  • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

    Which, IMO is fine as long as we admit it. The idea that politics is bad and the court is good because it exists outside of politics is a deeply anti-democratic idea. We'd be vastly better off if we had judges who acknowledged that their predecessors weren't perfect and neither are they.

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    Because then they'd acknowledge that they are public servants, vested with great responsibility and the power to make big decisions with imperfect information, seeking to get input from all and sometimes having to course-correct when they get it wrong.

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    • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

      Because then they'd acknowledge that they are public servants, vested with great responsibility and the power to make big decisions with imperfect information, seeking to get input from all and sometimes having to course-correct when they get it wrong.

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      To strive for a more perfect union rather than to assert that they are vessels of perfection. That's what all the best public servants - and indeed, all of our best public and private sector leaders do. Humility is a virtue. None of us come fully formed into this universe. Why claim otherwise?

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      • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

        To strive for a more perfect union rather than to assert that they are vessels of perfection. That's what all the best public servants - and indeed, all of our best public and private sector leaders do. Humility is a virtue. None of us come fully formed into this universe. Why claim otherwise?

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        So I guess I made a mistake at the start of this thread. (See? You can admit it!). I said that Roberts is either lying or arrogant. But I suppose there is a third possibility. Perhaps he is, in fact, infallible. And it is our privilege to say that we walked the earth in His time.

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        • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

          So I guess I made a mistake at the start of this thread. (See? You can admit it!). I said that Roberts is either lying or arrogant. But I suppose there is a third possibility. Perhaps he is, in fact, infallible. And it is our privilege to say that we walked the earth in His time.

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          As a final comment on this, if you ever take a tour of the Supreme Court, ask the docent these questions. Because they will tell you that the building is designed to look like a temple, figuratively symbolizing that the law, morality and ethics are eternal truths, revealed in this great chamber.

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          • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

            The only way you can say this with a straight face is if you are (a) willfully lying or (b) sufficiently arrogant to think that your opinions are truth handed down on tablets and those who disagree just lack your wisdom. https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-chief-justice-8933cfe269c90746e200f2588801dfae

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            @SeanCasten

            I have opinions

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            • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

              The only way you can say this with a straight face is if you are (a) willfully lying or (b) sufficiently arrogant to think that your opinions are truth handed down on tablets and those who disagree just lack your wisdom. https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-chief-justice-8933cfe269c90746e200f2588801dfae

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              @SeanCasten Are his lips pursed like that to stop the flow of absolute festering sewage that he’s apparently full of, from spilling out randomly and staining his tie?
              #USPol
              #Roberts
              #SupremeCourt

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              • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                The only way you can say this with a straight face is if you are (a) willfully lying or (b) sufficiently arrogant to think that your opinions are truth handed down on tablets and those who disagree just lack your wisdom. https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-chief-justice-8933cfe269c90746e200f2588801dfae

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                @SeanCasten BOTH.

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                • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                  As a final comment on this, if you ever take a tour of the Supreme Court, ask the docent these questions. Because they will tell you that the building is designed to look like a temple, figuratively symbolizing that the law, morality and ethics are eternal truths, revealed in this great chamber.

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                  Ask them how much that message screws with your ability to remain humble and thoughtful when it's repeated to you every day. Ask how happy Dred Scott felt after the truth of his inequality was revealed to him.

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                  • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                    Ask them how much that message screws with your ability to remain humble and thoughtful when it's repeated to you every day. Ask how happy Dred Scott felt after the truth of his inequality was revealed to him.

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                    Don't ask those questions out of malice. Ask them out of love. Because if these justices are ever going to be as perfect as they clearly want to / claim to be, they're going to need someone like you to prod them into some self-reflection and personal growth. /fin

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                    • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                      And frankly, this goes back much beyond the Roberts court. One could argue that the Warren court also overturned historic precedents consistent with their politics. Or that Roger Taney did racist sh*t under the guise of law. And I would agree! Judges are fallible, opinionated humans too.

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                      @SeanCasten “fallible, opinionated, assholes” Fixed it for you. Autocorrect misspelled the last word.

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                      • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                        So I guess I made a mistake at the start of this thread. (See? You can admit it!). I said that Roberts is either lying or arrogant. But I suppose there is a third possibility. Perhaps he is, in fact, infallible. And it is our privilege to say that we walked the earth in His time.

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                        @SeanCasten A fourth possibility is that he’s delusional enough to actually believe he is apolitical.

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                        • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                          The only way you can say this with a straight face is if you are (a) willfully lying or (b) sufficiently arrogant to think that your opinions are truth handed down on tablets and those who disagree just lack your wisdom. https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-chief-justice-8933cfe269c90746e200f2588801dfae

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                          @SeanCasten In other news, "Water is not wet"!

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                          • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                            Don't ask those questions out of malice. Ask them out of love. Because if these justices are ever going to be as perfect as they clearly want to / claim to be, they're going to need someone like you to prod them into some self-reflection and personal growth. /fin

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                            @SeanCasten Can we lovingly use a cattle prod? 🤣 🤣 🤣
                            #USPol

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                            • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                              So I guess I made a mistake at the start of this thread. (See? You can admit it!). I said that Roberts is either lying or arrogant. But I suppose there is a third possibility. Perhaps he is, in fact, infallible. And it is our privilege to say that we walked the earth in His time.

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                              @SeanCasten Huh. There's a fourth possibility: he's the Pope.

                              Sadly for Roberts, we only have one American Pope at a time and he's not it.

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                              • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                                The only way you can say this with a straight face is if you are (a) willfully lying or (b) sufficiently arrogant to think that your opinions are truth handed down on tablets and those who disagree just lack your wisdom. https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-chief-justice-8933cfe269c90746e200f2588801dfae

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                                @SeanCasten Someone give dear John "Bumke" Roberts and his Reichsgericht leonard leo Villainous Six a revolver and put them in a fucking bunker.

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                                • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                                  If SCOTUS isn't political, why are the reconstruction amendments viewed so differently by Republican appointed judges (who seem confused as to what race was being protected by the framers of those parts of the Constitution)?

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                                  @SeanCasten The entire Republican Party has learned they can just lie, gaslight, and play the victim. SC justices aren’t immune to that.

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                                  • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                                    Don't ask those questions out of malice. Ask them out of love. Because if these justices are ever going to be as perfect as they clearly want to / claim to be, they're going to need someone like you to prod them into some self-reflection and personal growth. /fin

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                                    @SeanCasten in the meantime, we really need to prod Congress:

                                    https://fosstodon.org/@ctoney/116533706026189634

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                                    • josephmeyer@c.imJ josephmeyer@c.im

                                      @SeanCasten A fourth possibility is that he’s delusional enough to actually believe he is apolitical.

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                                      @JosephMeyer @SeanCasten Nah.

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                                      • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                                        The only way you can say this with a straight face is if you are (a) willfully lying or (b) sufficiently arrogant to think that your opinions are truth handed down on tablets and those who disagree just lack your wisdom. https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-chief-justice-8933cfe269c90746e200f2588801dfae

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                                        @SeanCasten I concur except I think you are excluding the middle.

                                        He's both. Plato's Republic even justifies it and as a lawyer and Republican he's almost certainly a huge fan.

                                        For those who've not read it, along with the Forms thing he also suggested that:

                                        a) people have certain skills at birth and the state needs to establish what those are and put people in those positions.

                                        b) only the leader class is smart and reasonable enough to know the truth without exploding.

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                                        • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                                          The only way you can say this with a straight face is if you are (a) willfully lying or (b) sufficiently arrogant to think that your opinions are truth handed down on tablets and those who disagree just lack your wisdom. https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-chief-justice-8933cfe269c90746e200f2588801dfae

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                                          @SeanCasten

                                          he's a white supremacist, bald-faced lies are just what he does

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