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  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

    Growing up now is growing up online.

    Young people in Europe spend much of their lives in digital spaces where they connect, learn and express themselves.

    But they can also face risks like cyberbullying, disinformation and harmful content.

    We want to ensure a safer online environment for them:

    ๐Ÿ”นThe Digital Services Act
    ๐Ÿ”นThe EU Action against cyberbullying
    ๐Ÿ”นMental health support
    ๐Ÿ”นThe EU strategy on child sexual abuse online
    ๐Ÿ”นAge-appropriate protections

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ https://link.europa.eu/bmBQRP

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    #15

    @EUCommission Stop age discrimination and ban surveillance capitalist methods, now!

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    • bytes4life@mastodon.galB bytes4life@mastodon.gal

      @EUCommission
      How Digital Services Act helps young people?

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      #16

      @bytes4life @EUCommission

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      The Digital Services Act (DSA)

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      Better Internet for Kids (better-internet-for-kids.europa.eu)

      https://5rightsfoundation.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/DigitalServiceAct-5RightsPositionPaperJune2021.pdf

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      • notsoloud@expressional.socialN notsoloud@expressional.social

        @DrJLecter
        Ban surveillance advertising.
        @EUCommission

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        @notsoloud @DrJLecter @EUCommission Banning advertising wouldn't solve brain rot, the problem doesn't lie in the advertising part, it lies with the network itself.

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        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

          Growing up now is growing up online.

          Young people in Europe spend much of their lives in digital spaces where they connect, learn and express themselves.

          But they can also face risks like cyberbullying, disinformation and harmful content.

          We want to ensure a safer online environment for them:

          ๐Ÿ”นThe Digital Services Act
          ๐Ÿ”นThe EU Action against cyberbullying
          ๐Ÿ”นMental health support
          ๐Ÿ”นThe EU strategy on child sexual abuse online
          ๐Ÿ”นAge-appropriate protections

          ๐Ÿ‘‰ https://link.europa.eu/bmBQRP

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          @EUCommission "The DSA requires platforms accessible to minors to maintain a high level of privacy, safety and security."

          I have a better idea. What if you require privacy, safety and security for *all* platforms? That way you also don't have to breach it yourself with age verification.

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          • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

            Growing up now is growing up online.

            Young people in Europe spend much of their lives in digital spaces where they connect, learn and express themselves.

            But they can also face risks like cyberbullying, disinformation and harmful content.

            We want to ensure a safer online environment for them:

            ๐Ÿ”นThe Digital Services Act
            ๐Ÿ”นThe EU Action against cyberbullying
            ๐Ÿ”นMental health support
            ๐Ÿ”นThe EU strategy on child sexual abuse online
            ๐Ÿ”นAge-appropriate protections

            ๐Ÿ‘‰ https://link.europa.eu/bmBQRP

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            @EUCommission no. We have parental controls. Age verification is rubbish.

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            • karolina@mastodonsweden.seK karolina@mastodonsweden.se

              @EUCommission Everything we do happens online, so you want to force everyone at every time to be tracked and monitored when they are online. Itโ€™s like having you in my letters, my drawers, my tv, my attic. That does not make me feel safe. It makes me feel like Iโ€™m in a fascist sci-fi nightmare. Itโ€™s always โ€œthe poor childrenโ€ before they come for your fundamental human rights.

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              @Karolina @EUCommission I agree, I often use the comparaison of "Would you like a government official in your bedroom at all times?" -> "No, but..." -> "There you go".
              The answer is usually "But it's not the same!!!".
              Right, the only difference is one sees you for sure, while the other might or might not see you.

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                @Karolina @EUCommission I agree, I often use the comparaison of "Would you like a government official in your bedroom at all times?" -> "No, but..." -> "There you go".
                The answer is usually "But it's not the same!!!".
                Right, the only difference is one sees you for sure, while the other might or might not see you.

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                @Karolina @EUCommission That being said, let's make one thing very clear, it has nothing to do with fascism.
                Surveillance lies in both extremes of the political spectrum.
                I wouldn't exactly call the UK, France and China fascist states, but the surveillance there is very real and the UK and France don't even fall in the extremes, actually they're not even right wing right now, but it's a fact that these two are the most surveiled Western European countries.

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                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                  Growing up now is growing up online.

                  Young people in Europe spend much of their lives in digital spaces where they connect, learn and express themselves.

                  But they can also face risks like cyberbullying, disinformation and harmful content.

                  We want to ensure a safer online environment for them:

                  ๐Ÿ”นThe Digital Services Act
                  ๐Ÿ”นThe EU Action against cyberbullying
                  ๐Ÿ”นMental health support
                  ๐Ÿ”นThe EU strategy on child sexual abuse online
                  ๐Ÿ”นAge-appropriate protections

                  ๐Ÿ‘‰ https://link.europa.eu/bmBQRP

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                  #NoAgeVerificationRequired #EULaw #MyProtectedCharacteristics

                  #LookITUp

                  ๐Ÿง™โš•๏ธ๐Ÿค–๐Ÿค–โš•๏ธ๐Ÿง™ | โ€‹๐Ÿฆนโ€‹๐Ÿฆ„โ€‹โ€‹๐Ÿฆน

                  #DigitalServicesAct #BeingRight #SuperAwesome

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                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                    Growing up now is growing up online.

                    Young people in Europe spend much of their lives in digital spaces where they connect, learn and express themselves.

                    But they can also face risks like cyberbullying, disinformation and harmful content.

                    We want to ensure a safer online environment for them:

                    ๐Ÿ”นThe Digital Services Act
                    ๐Ÿ”นThe EU Action against cyberbullying
                    ๐Ÿ”นMental health support
                    ๐Ÿ”นThe EU strategy on child sexual abuse online
                    ๐Ÿ”นAge-appropriate protections

                    ๐Ÿ‘‰ https://link.europa.eu/bmBQRP

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                    @EUCommission you are so dishonest all the time, it's nauseating

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                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                      Growing up now is growing up online.

                      Young people in Europe spend much of their lives in digital spaces where they connect, learn and express themselves.

                      But they can also face risks like cyberbullying, disinformation and harmful content.

                      We want to ensure a safer online environment for them:

                      ๐Ÿ”นThe Digital Services Act
                      ๐Ÿ”นThe EU Action against cyberbullying
                      ๐Ÿ”นMental health support
                      ๐Ÿ”นThe EU strategy on child sexual abuse online
                      ๐Ÿ”นAge-appropriate protections

                      ๐Ÿ‘‰ https://link.europa.eu/bmBQRP

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                      @EUCommission ๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿผ your implementation to implement age verification, which means identification of **everyone**. (to prevent "child sexual abuse"), is a terrible idea...

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                      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                        Growing up now is growing up online.

                        Young people in Europe spend much of their lives in digital spaces where they connect, learn and express themselves.

                        But they can also face risks like cyberbullying, disinformation and harmful content.

                        We want to ensure a safer online environment for them:

                        ๐Ÿ”นThe Digital Services Act
                        ๐Ÿ”นThe EU Action against cyberbullying
                        ๐Ÿ”นMental health support
                        ๐Ÿ”นThe EU strategy on child sexual abuse online
                        ๐Ÿ”นAge-appropriate protections

                        ๐Ÿ‘‰ https://link.europa.eu/bmBQRP

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                        @EUCommission the parents of children need to take responsibility too by educating them well, and to teach the proper norms and values. Folks online also should play a role in this by being friendly and behaving decent. It takes a village to raise a child, in the physical world right, so why not in the digital world. Also, children should be able to make mistakes even online.

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                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                          Growing up now is growing up online.

                          Young people in Europe spend much of their lives in digital spaces where they connect, learn and express themselves.

                          But they can also face risks like cyberbullying, disinformation and harmful content.

                          We want to ensure a safer online environment for them:

                          ๐Ÿ”นThe Digital Services Act
                          ๐Ÿ”นThe EU Action against cyberbullying
                          ๐Ÿ”นMental health support
                          ๐Ÿ”นThe EU strategy on child sexual abuse online
                          ๐Ÿ”นAge-appropriate protections

                          ๐Ÿ‘‰ https://link.europa.eu/bmBQRP

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                          @EUCommission

                          >Age-appropriate protections

                          This sounds way too much like "we know tobacco products are designed to be more addictive than necessary, so we're banning their sale from under 18 year olds".

                          Please consider that everyone wants a safe environment, and you can't just let social media companies act predatory because all the victims are of voting age.

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                            @notsoloud @DrJLecter @EUCommission Banning advertising wouldn't solve brain rot, the problem doesn't lie in the advertising part, it lies with the network itself.

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                            @mttn brain rot content is not something unique, it has always been there. Arguably it is one of byproducts of growing up. Take the commercialization out of the equation, let parents do the actual parenting and kids will be okay.

                            We survived meaningless flash games, dumb music videos, weird console games (and arcade games before that), eurobeat music (and also rap, disco and whatever else that actually feels like AI slop before AI was even invented), meaningless comics and stupid fandoms. Most of us were happy doing that.

                            What I do see as a problem is how we try to fight commercial surveillance by replacing it with the government one.

                            @notsoloud @EUCommission @DrJLecter

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                              @Karolina @EUCommission That being said, let's make one thing very clear, it has nothing to do with fascism.
                              Surveillance lies in both extremes of the political spectrum.
                              I wouldn't exactly call the UK, France and China fascist states, but the surveillance there is very real and the UK and France don't even fall in the extremes, actually they're not even right wing right now, but it's a fact that these two are the most surveiled Western European countries.

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                              @mttn @EUCommission That doesnโ€™t mean it has nothing to do with fascism, it means it also has to do with the other extreme end of the political spectrum. Right now fascism is on the rise in many European countries, including my own, which is what Iโ€™m referring to. Thank you for mansplaining my own toot. Thatโ€™s always very helpful and appreciated.

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                                @notsoloud @DrJLecter @EUCommission Banning advertising wouldn't solve brain rot, the problem doesn't lie in the advertising part, it lies with the network itself.

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                                @mttn
                                If you ban TARGETED/PROFILED advertising there will be no way to legally gather loads of information that can be (and currently is) abused.
                                It is the single 'simple' action with a foreseeable huge cascading impact on internet privacy, security and safety.
                                Opponents always leave out the TARGETED/PROFILED part to have proponents look as dumbass.
                                TARGETED/PROFILED are the keywords.
                                Advertise as much as you want without TARGETING/PROFILING tools.
                                @notsoloud @DrJLecter @EUCommission

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                                  @mttn
                                  If you ban TARGETED/PROFILED advertising there will be no way to legally gather loads of information that can be (and currently is) abused.
                                  It is the single 'simple' action with a foreseeable huge cascading impact on internet privacy, security and safety.
                                  Opponents always leave out the TARGETED/PROFILED part to have proponents look as dumbass.
                                  TARGETED/PROFILED are the keywords.
                                  Advertise as much as you want without TARGETING/PROFILING tools.
                                  @notsoloud @DrJLecter @EUCommission

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                                  @pgo @notsoloud @DrJLecter @EUCommission
                                  Brother, "there will be no way to legally gather loads of information that can be (and currently is) abused." this is a messed up claim, just because you disable targeted advertising, but hell let us even say advertising at all, it doesn't stop companies in any way to track you through their services to discover what you like and maximize your watch time.
                                  Claiming otherwise is just plain wrong.

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                                    @pgo @notsoloud @DrJLecter @EUCommission
                                    Brother, "there will be no way to legally gather loads of information that can be (and currently is) abused." this is a messed up claim, just because you disable targeted advertising, but hell let us even say advertising at all, it doesn't stop companies in any way to track you through their services to discover what you like and maximize your watch time.
                                    Claiming otherwise is just plain wrong.

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                                    @pgo @notsoloud @DrJLecter @EUCommission It's not the advertising part that is the problem, it's the service itself that is fundamentally built to know everything about you, whether it includes advertising or not.

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                                    • shuro@friends.deko.cloudS shuro@friends.deko.cloud

                                      @mttn brain rot content is not something unique, it has always been there. Arguably it is one of byproducts of growing up. Take the commercialization out of the equation, let parents do the actual parenting and kids will be okay.

                                      We survived meaningless flash games, dumb music videos, weird console games (and arcade games before that), eurobeat music (and also rap, disco and whatever else that actually feels like AI slop before AI was even invented), meaningless comics and stupid fandoms. Most of us were happy doing that.

                                      What I do see as a problem is how we try to fight commercial surveillance by replacing it with the government one.

                                      @notsoloud @EUCommission @DrJLecter

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                                      @shuro
                                      In 2003 technology wasn't quite ready to feed us endless streams of brain rot individually tuned for maximum addiction. 200 badger mushrooms a day would have hit differently I think.

                                      Apart from that I agree about parenting and commercialization.

                                      @EUCommission @mttn @DrJLecter

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                                      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                        Growing up now is growing up online.

                                        Young people in Europe spend much of their lives in digital spaces where they connect, learn and express themselves.

                                        But they can also face risks like cyberbullying, disinformation and harmful content.

                                        We want to ensure a safer online environment for them:

                                        ๐Ÿ”นThe Digital Services Act
                                        ๐Ÿ”นThe EU Action against cyberbullying
                                        ๐Ÿ”นMental health support
                                        ๐Ÿ”นThe EU strategy on child sexual abuse online
                                        ๐Ÿ”นAge-appropriate protections

                                        ๐Ÿ‘‰ https://link.europa.eu/bmBQRP

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                                        @EUCommission instead of limiting citizens, control the networks. Why the Chinese TikTok pushes STEM content and the western version pushes brainrot? It means the network can moderate dangerous content, but they donโ€™t want to do so in the West.
                                        Enforce Meta and TikTok to limit brainrot and you solve 90% of the issues without adopting Soviet-style laws.

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                                        • karolina@mastodonsweden.seK karolina@mastodonsweden.se

                                          @mttn @EUCommission That doesnโ€™t mean it has nothing to do with fascism, it means it also has to do with the other extreme end of the political spectrum. Right now fascism is on the rise in many European countries, including my own, which is what Iโ€™m referring to. Thank you for mansplaining my own toot. Thatโ€™s always very helpful and appreciated.

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                                          @Karolina @EUCommission How is that mansplaining??? Ahaha what the heck dude.
                                          "It means it also has to do with the other extreme...", nop, the literal definition of fascism is far-right, you're contradicting yourself. So not only are you wrong, you also claim that I do "mansplaining" which is completely absurd considering I have these discussions more with men than women.
                                          You're not the center of the world, just because I replied to you doesn't mean I only reply to women.

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