People will be running from the shame of supporting this the rest of their lives.
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@tseitr @GM7077 @JackMexa4 @babadookspinoza Forget.
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People will be running from the shame of supporting this the rest of their lives.
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People will be running from the shame of supporting this the rest of their lives.
@babadookspinoza if theyre made to. inshallah.
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People will be running from the shame of supporting this the rest of their lives.
Those who support this are not human.
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People will be running from the shame of supporting this the rest of their lives.
@babadookspinoza there are 300,000++ Palestinians killed in only this CURRENT nakba according to 1000s of medical professionals, journalists, human rights groups, and the UN's own special investigators, doctors without borders, etc etc, have all confirmed the count is easily half a million civilians.
And yet, every new fucking story about this you hear, you hear that "30,000 or 50,000 are killed", similar to how eugenicists continue to lower the excess death count from COVID.
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People will be running from the shame of supporting this the rest of their lives.
@babadookspinoza I grew up hearing the constant refrain of “never again”. All of human civilization, it seemed, had committed to never again allowing the systematic extermination of any particular people.
And now I look on, helpless, as people who call themselves “leaders” not only do it again, but get cheered on by unfathomably many of the same people who solemnly swore “never again”.
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People will be running from the shame of supporting this the rest of their lives.
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Sadly, that info is a year old and many seem very ok with the shame. I'd like to see more running to be fair... -
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In other words, these numbers show indiscrimnate killing of everyone, rather than a specific targeting of children.They're still murdering tons of kids, of course, but we already knew that.
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Or, in other word: genocide.What you've statistically proven, is that this is a genocide.
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People will be running from the shame of supporting this the rest of their lives.
@babadookspinoza In a few years, they'll all have totally always been against it the whole time, since at least 8 October 2023
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People will be running from the shame of supporting this the rest of their lives.
@babadookspinoza we have read the names at a weeks long wake 24/7. Tha names with age 0 were the hardest.
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@australopithecus
Or, in other word: genocide.What you've statistically proven, is that this is a genocide.
@JorisMeys @babadookspinoza
Well... On the one hand, it's not really being proven here specifically; this just shows the distribution of killings, not the extent of it. Very probably proof of war crimes (indiscriminate killing of civilians), but not necessarily of genocide specifically.
On the other hand, anyone still denying the basic fact that a genocide is happening here either isn't paying attention or isn't engaging in good faith. There's plenty of other proof of that. -
@babadookspinoza I grew up hearing the constant refrain of “never again”. All of human civilization, it seemed, had committed to never again allowing the systematic extermination of any particular people.
And now I look on, helpless, as people who call themselves “leaders” not only do it again, but get cheered on by unfathomably many of the same people who solemnly swore “never again”.
@ShadSterling @babadookspinoza
After WW2 there was a commited strive to find out what made Nazi-Germany so evil. They read through the diplomatic cables of the regime, and.. didn't find anything especially noteworthy (compared to other western regimes).
When I was younger I often wondered how the local leftists called right-wing rhetoric and/or implementations so often "fascist". It was even somewhat of a joke: they saw fascists everywhere lol lol lol.
After I studied history (etc) the...½
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People will be running from the shame of supporting this the rest of their lives.
@babadookspinoza what was the definition of genocide again?
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@ShadSterling @babadookspinoza
After WW2 there was a commited strive to find out what made Nazi-Germany so evil. They read through the diplomatic cables of the regime, and.. didn't find anything especially noteworthy (compared to other western regimes).
When I was younger I often wondered how the local leftists called right-wing rhetoric and/or implementations so often "fascist". It was even somewhat of a joke: they saw fascists everywhere lol lol lol.
After I studied history (etc) the...½
@ShadSterling @babadookspinoza
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...the answer became clear. It's not that there wasn't anything noteworthy in the cables, and it wasn't that the implementations later weren't fascist.
It's just that fascism is in a very real sense intensification of right-wing mindset¹, and thus it's hard to...
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...the answer became clear. It's not that there wasn't anything noteworthy in the cables, and it wasn't that the implementations later weren't fascist.
It's just that fascism is in a very real sense intensification of right-wing mindset¹, and thus it's hard to...
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¹ in western societies there's this ongoing battle between democracy (public interest) and capitalism (private interest), and which of these two is closer to the interest of the state.@ShadSterling @babadookspinoza
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..it is hard to draw a line at what point the private interest goes too far. For example: the presently slave-produced cocoa, slave-built olympic arenas, wars for oil, destruction of environment/native culture, etc.
Thus stuff like Gazan genocide can be seen in context of "overreach" when going perfectly acceptable stuff like securing more land by destroying individual lives and centuries old communities.
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@ShadSterling @babadookspinoza
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..it is hard to draw a line at what point the private interest goes too far. For example: the presently slave-produced cocoa, slave-built olympic arenas, wars for oil, destruction of environment/native culture, etc.
Thus stuff like Gazan genocide can be seen in context of "overreach" when going perfectly acceptable stuff like securing more land by destroying individual lives and centuries old communities.
@iju @babadookspinoza Israel’s land grabs in the West Bank are nowhere near acceptable, and it is a failure of the rules-based international order that we allow them to exert any authority outside of their internationally recognized borders.
Maybe if we were stricter about shutting down the lower levels of bullying we would be less susceptible to the horrific escalations
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@iju @babadookspinoza Israel’s land grabs in the West Bank are nowhere near acceptable, and it is a failure of the rules-based international order that we allow them to exert any authority outside of their internationally recognized borders.
Maybe if we were stricter about shutting down the lower levels of bullying we would be less susceptible to the horrific escalations
@ShadSterling @babadookspinoza
You don't think it's right. I don't think it's right either. There's a lot of people who disagree, and do so publicly and while holding an elected office.
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@JorisMeys @babadookspinoza
Well... On the one hand, it's not really being proven here specifically; this just shows the distribution of killings, not the extent of it. Very probably proof of war crimes (indiscriminate killing of civilians), but not necessarily of genocide specifically.
On the other hand, anyone still denying the basic fact that a genocide is happening here either isn't paying attention or isn't engaging in good faith. There's plenty of other proof of that.@australopithecus my deepest apologies, you are right. Ofcourse we've just shown indiscriminate killing of Gazans by the tens of thousands. In no way does that prove genocide specifically. Thank you for bringing focus to this very important matter.
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People will be running from the shame of supporting this the rest of their lives.
@babadookspinoza we need to start taking names too.
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Those who support this are not human.
@AnnieBuddy Sadly, they are. As human as you or me. ALL of us have a capacity for evil, and dehumanizing those who commit evil is how we deny that awful truth -- and what makes it easier for us to commit evil ourselves. Indeed, you're reflecting the likely thought process of these very perpetrators.
If you dehumanize others, then you're doing exactly what these butchers are doing. You must be better than that, if you want the world to be better.
