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I'm a big fan of this explanation/rant from Andrew Murphy.

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  • aedius@lavraievie.socialA aedius@lavraievie.social

    @elizayer

    The good news is :

    Open source maintainers see an increase in the quality of AI security tools, it will soon be in the hands of the bad actors.

    Then it will be mandatory to do good software and ( i will make the leap of faith that ) you have to understand the business needs to create a simple software that handle the issues.

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    @Aedius @elizayer there's just going to be less open source

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    • spazcosoft@peoplemaking.gamesS spazcosoft@peoplemaking.games

      @elizayer to be 100% completely super fair, we are seeing a massive increase in scams. So AI is good for something. Scams. It’s good for scams.

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      #33

      @spazcosoft @elizayer Wasn't this always? Newly hyped stuff is used for scam, or porn, or both.

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      • wila@mastodon.socialW wila@mastodon.social

        @Aedius @elizayer there's just going to be less open source

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        #34

        @wila @elizayer

        All code is open source when you push it with a map file.

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        • aedius@lavraievie.socialA aedius@lavraievie.social

          @wila @elizayer

          All code is open source when you push it with a map file.

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          #35

          @Aedius @elizayer when it is javascript yes.
          I wasn't talking about less slop.
          There will be more of that.

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            #36

            @macronencer @mroach @elizayer
            When I was working, I would regularly solve a development issue while in the shower. I think it’s the brain being unstressed that does that.

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            • elizayer@mastodon.socialE elizayer@mastodon.social

              The fact that we are *not* seeing wildly improving software all around us tells us everything we need to know.

              There is no flourishing of value delivery, new product categories, more needs being satisfied better. It’s the opposite.

              All we are seeing is decreases in quality, because 👏 code 👏 creation 👏 is not 👏 the problem.

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              @elizayer@mastodon.social Claude Code found a 23-year-old Linux vulnerability, the kind a regular human security auditor would have taken weeks or months to find (or in this case, 23 years). https://mtlynch.io/claude-code-found-linux-vulnerability/

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              • robtherunt@cupoftea.socialR robtherunt@cupoftea.social

                @macronencer @mroach @elizayer
                When I was working, I would regularly solve a development issue while in the shower. I think it’s the brain being unstressed that does that.

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                #38

                @robtherunt @macronencer @elizayer Same! I’ve half jokingly said my bathroom is the most productive room in my home office setup. Sitting on the toilet and lots of a-ha moments

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                • elizayer@mastodon.socialE elizayer@mastodon.social

                  I'm a big fan of this explanation/rant from Andrew Murphy.

                  Taken as a whole, there are many bottlenecks in a corporate software development process. The "load-bearing" calendar is a great example!

                  Speeding up code creation just increases pressure on the bottleneck, which decreases throughput.

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                  If you thought the speed of writing code was your problem - you have bigger problems | Debugging Leadership

                  AI coding tools are optimising the wrong thing and nobody wants to hear it. Writing code was already fast. The bottleneck is everything else: unclear requirements, review queues, terrified deploy cultures, and an org chart that needs six meetings to decide what colour the button should be.

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                  #39

                  @elizayer @trendytoots I can very much relate to this

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                  • elizayer@mastodon.socialE elizayer@mastodon.social

                    So why are we still trying to optimize code creation?

                    For decades, people with power - executives and product people - have been shifting the blame for strategy failures and poor market insight onto development "productivity."

                    This AI moment should be incredibly clarifying. Like, it should be the reductio ad absurdum of a productivity-centric approach.

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                    @elizayer management blame productivity for strategy failure because their approach to strategy path-finding is flooding: say a bunch of random hunches overconfidently, make teams try different things out for a little while, see what sticks. They see making code faster not as a way to manufacture a good design more efficiently, but as a means to generate management fuck ups and backpedals at faster pace and greater scale.

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                    • elizayer@mastodon.socialE elizayer@mastodon.social

                      The fact that we are *not* seeing wildly improving software all around us tells us everything we need to know.

                      There is no flourishing of value delivery, new product categories, more needs being satisfied better. It’s the opposite.

                      All we are seeing is decreases in quality, because 👏 code 👏 creation 👏 is not 👏 the problem.

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                      @elizayer @ArtHarg AI only solves one problem: paying people wages.

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                      • elizayer@mastodon.socialE elizayer@mastodon.social

                        The fact that we are *not* seeing wildly improving software all around us tells us everything we need to know.

                        There is no flourishing of value delivery, new product categories, more needs being satisfied better. It’s the opposite.

                        All we are seeing is decreases in quality, because 👏 code 👏 creation 👏 is not 👏 the problem.

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                        @elizayer word!

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                        • ulveon@derg.socialU ulveon@derg.social

                          @elizayer@mastodon.social Claude Code found a 23-year-old Linux vulnerability, the kind a regular human security auditor would have taken weeks or months to find (or in this case, 23 years). https://mtlynch.io/claude-code-found-linux-vulnerability/

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                          @ulveon so this case justifies bazillions of dollars to be invested in needless serverfarms? And if that vulnerability wasnt discovered for 23 years it was prolly so well hidden that it was not an issue at all. Think about it.

                          @elizayer

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                          • elizayer@mastodon.socialE elizayer@mastodon.social

                            I'm a big fan of this explanation/rant from Andrew Murphy.

                            Taken as a whole, there are many bottlenecks in a corporate software development process. The "load-bearing" calendar is a great example!

                            Speeding up code creation just increases pressure on the bottleneck, which decreases throughput.

                            Link Preview Image
                            If you thought the speed of writing code was your problem - you have bigger problems | Debugging Leadership

                            AI coding tools are optimising the wrong thing and nobody wants to hear it. Writing code was already fast. The bottleneck is everything else: unclear requirements, review queues, terrified deploy cultures, and an org chart that needs six meetings to decide what colour the button should be.

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                            @elizayer And very well said it is!

                            This is why #BusinessAnalysts exist, or SHOULD exist.

                            To talk to your users and THEN to tell your coders what to build AND WHY.

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                            • elizayer@mastodon.socialE elizayer@mastodon.social

                              The fact that we are *not* seeing wildly improving software all around us tells us everything we need to know.

                              There is no flourishing of value delivery, new product categories, more needs being satisfied better. It’s the opposite.

                              All we are seeing is decreases in quality, because 👏 code 👏 creation 👏 is not 👏 the problem.

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                              @elizayer workaday devs are serfs. Software architects are more crucial than ever. Architects emerge from jr devs through apprenticeship. Go.

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                              • elizayer@mastodon.socialE elizayer@mastodon.social

                                I'm a big fan of this explanation/rant from Andrew Murphy.

                                Taken as a whole, there are many bottlenecks in a corporate software development process. The "load-bearing" calendar is a great example!

                                Speeding up code creation just increases pressure on the bottleneck, which decreases throughput.

                                Link Preview Image
                                If you thought the speed of writing code was your problem - you have bigger problems | Debugging Leadership

                                AI coding tools are optimising the wrong thing and nobody wants to hear it. Writing code was already fast. The bottleneck is everything else: unclear requirements, review queues, terrified deploy cultures, and an org chart that needs six meetings to decide what colour the button should be.

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                                @elizayer amen. This. So much this.

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                                • elizayer@mastodon.socialE elizayer@mastodon.social

                                  The fact that we are *not* seeing wildly improving software all around us tells us everything we need to know.

                                  There is no flourishing of value delivery, new product categories, more needs being satisfied better. It’s the opposite.

                                  All we are seeing is decreases in quality, because 👏 code 👏 creation 👏 is not 👏 the problem.

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                                  @elizayer

                                  The problem AI is meant to solve is wages.

                                  They don't care if quality sucks, if they can avoid paying wages.

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