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  3. I'm trying to rage-write an article about all the completely awful, useless, polluting, dangerous shit that companies are proposing to launch into orbit and I can't even tell what's fake and what's real on these fucking techbro websites anymore.

I'm trying to rage-write an article about all the completely awful, useless, polluting, dangerous shit that companies are proposing to launch into orbit and I can't even tell what's fake and what's real on these fucking techbro websites anymore.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    But of course nothing beats SpaceX's drunk teenager scifi novel of an FCC filing about how we need AI data centres in orbit to ascend into Kardashev civilization land. Which the FCC took totally seriously, opened for public comment in 4 days (record-short time!) https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

    and the FCC will probably approve despite a couple thousand comments from the public and at least two petitions to deny opposing it. Fuckers.

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    RE: https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/115345346648445621

    A million satellites have obvious consequences, but even one can cause huge amounts of damage. Reflect Orbital, possibly simultaneously the most useless and damaging company ever to exist, which I have ranted about many times, and will continue to rant as their FCC filing is also likely to be approved despite a couple thousand comments against it from the general public and at least 2 formal petitions to deny. I really really hate this company a lot.

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      @Unsightly3055 I saw that one and decided it's a joke. It's not a joke????

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        Or this shit: https://www.cnn.com/science/space-forge-factory-semiconductors-spc

        I guess factories in orbit are already a thing? Tiny factories, for now. Which then have to drop their precious cargo back through the atmosphere somehow and recover it? How does this make any sense economically at all?

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        @sundogplanets this one only makes sense to me if they think they're selling the output to future space assembly factories. who knows what scifi they've been reading and want to get out ahead of!

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          I'm trying to rage-write an article about all the completely awful, useless, polluting, dangerous shit that companies are proposing to launch into orbit and I can't even tell what's fake and what's real on these fucking techbro websites anymore. It's all so fucking ludicrous.

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          @sundogplanets
          No surprise they are not concerned with AI hallucinations given they themselves hallucinate far more strongly.

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/115345346648445621

            A million satellites have obvious consequences, but even one can cause huge amounts of damage. Reflect Orbital, possibly simultaneously the most useless and damaging company ever to exist, which I have ranted about many times, and will continue to rant as their FCC filing is also likely to be approved despite a couple thousand comments against it from the general public and at least 2 formal petitions to deny. I really really hate this company a lot.

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            I want to see companies that promise to use a handful of well-tested, ethically built, perfectly functioning satellites with decades-long operating lifetimes to do something that benefits the vast majority of humanity. Why can't we have more proposals like that?

            msmerope@sfba.socialM moz@fosstodon.orgM mattblaze@federate.socialM adalanerd@eldritch.cafeA sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS 8 Replies Last reply
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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              Like this shit: https://techcrunch.com/2026/04/27/meta-inks-deal-for-solar-power-at-night-beamed-from-space/

              Don't worry guys, the CEO says you can stare right into the infrared beam and it's totally safe! I trust him, don't you?

              (How you transmit usable amounts of power with a beam that's so diffuse that you can look at it I have no fucking idea.)

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              @sundogplanets

              It's astonishing the ways corporations continue to find ways to damage the Earth.

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                I want to see companies that promise to use a handful of well-tested, ethically built, perfectly functioning satellites with decades-long operating lifetimes to do something that benefits the vast majority of humanity. Why can't we have more proposals like that?

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                @sundogplanets
                💰 ?

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/115345346648445621

                  A million satellites have obvious consequences, but even one can cause huge amounts of damage. Reflect Orbital, possibly simultaneously the most useless and damaging company ever to exist, which I have ranted about many times, and will continue to rant as their FCC filing is also likely to be approved despite a couple thousand comments against it from the general public and at least 2 formal petitions to deny. I really really hate this company a lot.

                  dyrathror@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @sundogplanets
                  What bothers me, is that in matters which effect all of mankind, like the millions of satellites Starlink wants to shoot into orbit or what Reflect Orbital is trying to do, nobody but the FCC seems to have a say in this.

                  Shouldn't such things be regulated by a global organization?

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                    @ngaylinn @sundogplanets I miss the good old times where just they were playing with their NFTs.

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      Like this shit: https://techcrunch.com/2026/04/27/meta-inks-deal-for-solar-power-at-night-beamed-from-space/

                      Don't worry guys, the CEO says you can stare right into the infrared beam and it's totally safe! I trust him, don't you?

                      (How you transmit usable amounts of power with a beam that's so diffuse that you can look at it I have no fucking idea.)

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                      @sundogplanets Genuinely that’s one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard. 😂

                      Someday I hope we see serious studies on how having absurd amounts of wealth and influence literally destroys people’s brains.

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        I want to see companies that promise to use a handful of well-tested, ethically built, perfectly functioning satellites with decades-long operating lifetimes to do something that benefits the vast majority of humanity. Why can't we have more proposals like that?

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                        @sundogplanets I'm disappointed that one of the "all satellites everywhere all the time" companies hasn't just thrown a bunch of cheap-ish telescopes into orbit and opened them up to you lot.

                        But then Elon did promise to end world hunger and when the quote arrived he went very quiet and never paid up. It was only ~$6B IIRC, which even at the time was less than 5% of his wealth.

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                        • camless@m.ai6yr.orgC camless@m.ai6yr.org

                          @sundogplanets The same energy there as the 'glyphosate is as safe as salt' myth that was perpetuated by Monsanto during the rollout of RoundUp

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                          @camless @sundogplanets Cigarettes are good for pregnant women! It helps keep them calm, and soothes the throat!

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            I want to see companies that promise to use a handful of well-tested, ethically built, perfectly functioning satellites with decades-long operating lifetimes to do something that benefits the vast majority of humanity. Why can't we have more proposals like that?

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                            @sundogplanets The FCC's mandate and expertise is in protecting communications, ensuring satellites don't interfere with each other, etc. They have much less expertise in protecting from externalities like the night sky, etc, and it now shows.

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              I'm trying to rage-write an article about all the completely awful, useless, polluting, dangerous shit that companies are proposing to launch into orbit and I can't even tell what's fake and what's real on these fucking techbro websites anymore. It's all so fucking ludicrous.

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                              @sundogplanets it seems like all these space ventures live in the same no-man's-land occupied by stuff like Elon Musk's hyperloop or his brain-chip ambitions: it's hard to tell the degree to which they actually hope to achieve anything substantial vs. have some sort of grand tentpole projects always going, pretexts for hoovering up investment dollars

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                I want to see companies that promise to use a handful of well-tested, ethically built, perfectly functioning satellites with decades-long operating lifetimes to do something that benefits the vast majority of humanity. Why can't we have more proposals like that?

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                                @sundogplanets
                                🙏🙏🙏 thanks to voice all this out, this topic should raise much more voices and struggles about it. There's so much to do with all the mess being done in this world. Why are we letting multi-billionnaires ruin all our planet and its surroundings and still doing more profit out of pure speculation and debt on our own shoulders?? It's really outrageous that they do it in first hands but why are we so powerless to stop them? Omg, it's so fucked up.

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  I want to see companies that promise to use a handful of well-tested, ethically built, perfectly functioning satellites with decades-long operating lifetimes to do something that benefits the vast majority of humanity. Why can't we have more proposals like that?

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                                  Oh. This is orbital enshittification.

                                  Shit.

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    I want to see companies that promise to use a handful of well-tested, ethically built, perfectly functioning satellites with decades-long operating lifetimes to do something that benefits the vast majority of humanity. Why can't we have more proposals like that?

                                    nemeciii@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @sundogplanets because cheap crap faster and faster has been the latest craze since the 70's.

                                    - Clothes are crap and don't last for years.
                                    - Kitchen blades are crap, if nothing else the plastic handles or the planned obsolescence side paint starts to crack.
                                    - Home appliances don't last for 20 years and don't have 10 year warranty by default.

                                    The list goes on and on.

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      Or this shit: https://spacedaily.com/sd-n-nasa-backs-interlunes-2028-bid-to-mine-helium-3-from-the-moon/

                                      The Moon's gravity is much weaker than Earth's so it'll be easy to accidentally launch rocks into Moon-escape orbits, making the Earth-Moon trip even more hazardous than it is already. Fun!

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                                      @sundogplanets As an environmentalist and hobbyist astronomer, I’m truly baffled by the attitude those companies seem to harbor toward space pollution. It’s just not a concern for them *at all*.

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                                      • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                        @sundogplanets The FCC's mandate and expertise is in protecting communications, ensuring satellites don't interfere with each other, etc. They have much less expertise in protecting from externalities like the night sky, etc, and it now shows.

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                                        @sundogplanets Like, if you asked most people "what is the primary agency that regulates launching things into orbit", almost no one (who doesn't already know) would guess "the FCC".

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          Or this shit: https://www.cnn.com/science/space-forge-factory-semiconductors-spc

                                          I guess factories in orbit are already a thing? Tiny factories, for now. Which then have to drop their precious cargo back through the atmosphere somehow and recover it? How does this make any sense economically at all?

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                                          @sundogplanets Theoretically, at least, microgravity might allow the production of materials that can’t be made in 1G. I’m pretty sure some small-scale feasibility studies have been done but can’t recall any smashing successes. Your point about the economics is dead-on. The material produced is going to have to be incredibly valuable in its application to be worth it. And yes, it’s a 1970s-80s scifi staple.

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