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  3. I'm trying to rage-write an article about all the completely awful, useless, polluting, dangerous shit that companies are proposing to launch into orbit and I can't even tell what's fake and what's real on these fucking techbro websites anymore.

I'm trying to rage-write an article about all the completely awful, useless, polluting, dangerous shit that companies are proposing to launch into orbit and I can't even tell what's fake and what's real on these fucking techbro websites anymore.

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  • mayintoronto@beige.partyM mayintoronto@beige.party

    @sundogplanets They're just gonna put up a space laser or some bullshit like that when they can't get it to work.

    michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #12

    @mayintoronto @sundogplanets

    Beamed microwave power would be a space laser, using a microwave resonant cavity to make a coherent beam.

    But those tubes are infamously unreliable and need a lot of maintenance; and cannot be run in vacuum without melting themselves (on the ground, we run them by boiling lots of water to soak up the heat).

    And the inefficiencies mean that Earth-based solar and batteries always win.

    Not that the operators of these scams care about physics or practicality.

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      Or this shit: https://www.cnn.com/science/space-forge-factory-semiconductors-spc

      I guess factories in orbit are already a thing? Tiny factories, for now. Which then have to drop their precious cargo back through the atmosphere somehow and recover it? How does this make any sense economically at all?

      zompus@phire.placeZ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #13

      @sundogplanets I don't know enough about materials science to know if this is true. To me it sounds like hype to draw in investor money.

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        Or this shit: https://www.cnn.com/science/space-forge-factory-semiconductors-spc

        I guess factories in orbit are already a thing? Tiny factories, for now. Which then have to drop their precious cargo back through the atmosphere somehow and recover it? How does this make any sense economically at all?

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        #14

        @sundogplanets

        These companies remembers me the Panama scandals at the end of 1800:

        Link Preview Image
        Panama scandals - Wikipedia

        favicon

        (en.wikipedia.org)

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          Or this shit: https://spacedaily.com/sd-n-nasa-backs-interlunes-2028-bid-to-mine-helium-3-from-the-moon/

          The Moon's gravity is much weaker than Earth's so it'll be easy to accidentally launch rocks into Moon-escape orbits, making the Earth-Moon trip even more hazardous than it is already. Fun!

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          #15

          Or THIS shit which is really shit: https://harvardtechnologyreview.com/2025/09/05/the-future-of-energy-unlocking-the-potential-of-space-based-solar-power/

          Many companies are looking at different ways to do this (like the stare-into-the-IR-beam company above). All of them have huge safety, tech, and/or feasibility issues.

          wordshaper@weatherishappening.networkW sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS jorismeys@mstdn.socialJ sleepy62@social.vivaldi.netS 4 Replies Last reply
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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            Or this shit: https://spacedaily.com/sd-n-nasa-backs-interlunes-2028-bid-to-mine-helium-3-from-the-moon/

            The Moon's gravity is much weaker than Earth's so it'll be easy to accidentally launch rocks into Moon-escape orbits, making the Earth-Moon trip even more hazardous than it is already. Fun!

            michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #16

            @sundogplanets

            Checking; that grant to Interlune is for a system to measure volatile gases in lunar regolith in situ?

            Nothing about mining the Moon for helium-3.

            The media coverage remains appalling.

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              Or this shit: https://www.cnn.com/science/space-forge-factory-semiconductors-spc

              I guess factories in orbit are already a thing? Tiny factories, for now. Which then have to drop their precious cargo back through the atmosphere somehow and recover it? How does this make any sense economically at all?

              primavera@void.lgbtP This user is from outside of this forum
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              @sundogplanets " He adds that solar energy in space — which will power the factories — is abundant and “free.” " yes as opposed to the earth's surface OFC
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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                Or THIS shit which is really shit: https://harvardtechnologyreview.com/2025/09/05/the-future-of-energy-unlocking-the-potential-of-space-based-solar-power/

                Many companies are looking at different ways to do this (like the stare-into-the-IR-beam company above). All of them have huge safety, tech, and/or feasibility issues.

                wordshaper@weatherishappening.networkW This user is from outside of this forum
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                #18

                @sundogplanets I have come to the conclusion that the best way to predict what the techbros will propose next is to just read Robert Heinlein’s YA science fiction novels and see what hasn’t been proposed yet. (Because a whole lot of the clearly impossible nonsense seems to be pulled from those books with the occasional misunderstanding of some Asimov or Clarke stories)

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  Or THIS shit which is really shit: https://harvardtechnologyreview.com/2025/09/05/the-future-of-energy-unlocking-the-potential-of-space-based-solar-power/

                  Many companies are looking at different ways to do this (like the stare-into-the-IR-beam company above). All of them have huge safety, tech, and/or feasibility issues.

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                  But of course nothing beats SpaceX's drunk teenager scifi novel of an FCC filing about how we need AI data centres in orbit to ascend into Kardashev civilization land. Which the FCC took totally seriously, opened for public comment in 4 days (record-short time!) https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                  and the FCC will probably approve despite a couple thousand comments from the public and at least two petitions to deny opposing it. Fuckers.

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                  • michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM michael_w_busch@mastodon.online

                    @sundogplanets

                    Checking; that grant to Interlune is for a system to measure volatile gases in lunar regolith in situ?

                    Nothing about mining the Moon for helium-3.

                    The media coverage remains appalling.

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                    #20

                    @michael_w_busch Yeah, the bad journalism is not helping me decide what's real and what's not...

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      Or THIS shit which is really shit: https://harvardtechnologyreview.com/2025/09/05/the-future-of-energy-unlocking-the-potential-of-space-based-solar-power/

                      Many companies are looking at different ways to do this (like the stare-into-the-IR-beam company above). All of them have huge safety, tech, and/or feasibility issues.

                      jorismeys@mstdn.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @sundogplanets
                      Every time I see those tech boy hallucinations I want to yell at them that combining coke and booze results in serious brain damage.

                      Saddest part is that they have access to enough money to actually cause real serious harm

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        I'm trying to rage-write an article about all the completely awful, useless, polluting, dangerous shit that companies are proposing to launch into orbit and I can't even tell what's fake and what's real on these fucking techbro websites anymore. It's all so fucking ludicrous.

                        derickr@phpc.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @sundogplanets The same tech bros ducking up space and astronomy are also ducking up everything in my industry (open source software), with their thieving AI bullshit generators, covering us in generated manure in vast amounts, while also taking no care of software reliability or security.

                        It's such a shitshow, which will get worser before it might all fall apart.

                        Your goat and aurora photos, and everybody else creating fabulous photos and art of nature and animals is what's keeping me going.

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          Or this shit: https://spacedaily.com/sd-n-nasa-backs-interlunes-2028-bid-to-mine-helium-3-from-the-moon/

                          The Moon's gravity is much weaker than Earth's so it'll be easy to accidentally launch rocks into Moon-escape orbits, making the Earth-Moon trip even more hazardous than it is already. Fun!

                          obot50549535@left-bank.netO This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @sundogplanets Well, at least they got through an article about lunar He3 without going off on some fusion energy tangent.

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            But of course nothing beats SpaceX's drunk teenager scifi novel of an FCC filing about how we need AI data centres in orbit to ascend into Kardashev civilization land. Which the FCC took totally seriously, opened for public comment in 4 days (record-short time!) https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                            and the FCC will probably approve despite a couple thousand comments from the public and at least two petitions to deny opposing it. Fuckers.

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                            RE: https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/115345346648445621

                            A million satellites have obvious consequences, but even one can cause huge amounts of damage. Reflect Orbital, possibly simultaneously the most useless and damaging company ever to exist, which I have ranted about many times, and will continue to rant as their FCC filing is also likely to be approved despite a couple thousand comments against it from the general public and at least 2 formal petitions to deny. I really really hate this company a lot.

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                              @Unsightly3055 I saw that one and decided it's a joke. It's not a joke????

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                Or this shit: https://www.cnn.com/science/space-forge-factory-semiconductors-spc

                                I guess factories in orbit are already a thing? Tiny factories, for now. Which then have to drop their precious cargo back through the atmosphere somehow and recover it? How does this make any sense economically at all?

                                acm_redfox@jawns.clubA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @sundogplanets this one only makes sense to me if they think they're selling the output to future space assembly factories. who knows what scifi they've been reading and want to get out ahead of!

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  I'm trying to rage-write an article about all the completely awful, useless, polluting, dangerous shit that companies are proposing to launch into orbit and I can't even tell what's fake and what's real on these fucking techbro websites anymore. It's all so fucking ludicrous.

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                                  @sundogplanets
                                  No surprise they are not concerned with AI hallucinations given they themselves hallucinate far more strongly.

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/115345346648445621

                                    A million satellites have obvious consequences, but even one can cause huge amounts of damage. Reflect Orbital, possibly simultaneously the most useless and damaging company ever to exist, which I have ranted about many times, and will continue to rant as their FCC filing is also likely to be approved despite a couple thousand comments against it from the general public and at least 2 formal petitions to deny. I really really hate this company a lot.

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                                    I want to see companies that promise to use a handful of well-tested, ethically built, perfectly functioning satellites with decades-long operating lifetimes to do something that benefits the vast majority of humanity. Why can't we have more proposals like that?

                                    msmerope@sfba.socialM moz@fosstodon.orgM mattblaze@federate.socialM adalanerd@eldritch.cafeA sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS 8 Replies Last reply
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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      Like this shit: https://techcrunch.com/2026/04/27/meta-inks-deal-for-solar-power-at-night-beamed-from-space/

                                      Don't worry guys, the CEO says you can stare right into the infrared beam and it's totally safe! I trust him, don't you?

                                      (How you transmit usable amounts of power with a beam that's so diffuse that you can look at it I have no fucking idea.)

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                                      @sundogplanets

                                      It's astonishing the ways corporations continue to find ways to damage the Earth.

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        I want to see companies that promise to use a handful of well-tested, ethically built, perfectly functioning satellites with decades-long operating lifetimes to do something that benefits the vast majority of humanity. Why can't we have more proposals like that?

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                                        @sundogplanets
                                        💰 ?

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/115345346648445621

                                          A million satellites have obvious consequences, but even one can cause huge amounts of damage. Reflect Orbital, possibly simultaneously the most useless and damaging company ever to exist, which I have ranted about many times, and will continue to rant as their FCC filing is also likely to be approved despite a couple thousand comments against it from the general public and at least 2 formal petitions to deny. I really really hate this company a lot.

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                                          @sundogplanets
                                          What bothers me, is that in matters which effect all of mankind, like the millions of satellites Starlink wants to shoot into orbit or what Reflect Orbital is trying to do, nobody but the FCC seems to have a say in this.

                                          Shouldn't such things be regulated by a global organization?

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