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  • alesandroortiz@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
    alesandroortiz@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
    alesandroortiz@infosec.exchange
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    I have a few questions... "Security exercise" sounds planned but this is "Unplanned maintenance" on a Friday night.

    Is PostHog rotating keys due to a security incident?

    https://www.posthogstatus.com/incidents/01KSV6HJYKG5QJAP8HVTSQVSM1

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    • alesandroortiz@infosec.exchangeA alesandroortiz@infosec.exchange

      I have a few questions... "Security exercise" sounds planned but this is "Unplanned maintenance" on a Friday night.

      Is PostHog rotating keys due to a security incident?

      https://www.posthogstatus.com/incidents/01KSV6HJYKG5QJAP8HVTSQVSM1

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      @AlesandroOrtiz

      "Unplanned" just means it wasn't on the maintenance calendar, not that it's an accident. A planned key rotation they didn't pre-announce lands there by default.

      And it went from "doing maintenance" to "it's a security exercise" — that's the opposite of how a breach reads. Those escalate into an advisory and a "rotate your keys" email. None of that here. Fair to side-eye given the month we're having, but this looks like hygiene.

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      • olearysec@infosec.exchangeO olearysec@infosec.exchange

        @AlesandroOrtiz

        "Unplanned" just means it wasn't on the maintenance calendar, not that it's an accident. A planned key rotation they didn't pre-announce lands there by default.

        And it went from "doing maintenance" to "it's a security exercise" — that's the opposite of how a breach reads. Those escalate into an advisory and a "rotate your keys" email. None of that here. Fair to side-eye given the month we're having, but this looks like hygiene.

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        @olearysec AFAIK this is the first time they've done any planned maintenance that impacted web app availability, going back several years.

        There's been many unplanned issues that impacted web app availability, but none cited anything similar to this (like key rotation or security exercise).

        I hope you're right and they forgot to announce it, but also seems unusual given they haven't done this before in a way that impacted web app availability, either as planned maintenance or unplanned maintenance. All the unplanned maintenance affecting web app uptime I've seen has never cited security exercise or key rotation.

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        • alesandroortiz@infosec.exchangeA alesandroortiz@infosec.exchange

          I have a few questions... "Security exercise" sounds planned but this is "Unplanned maintenance" on a Friday night.

          Is PostHog rotating keys due to a security incident?

          https://www.posthogstatus.com/incidents/01KSV6HJYKG5QJAP8HVTSQVSM1

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          Sounds like an external security researcher was able to access one of PostHog's AWS environments.

          Also note the quiet update of the existing status (same timestamp as earlier update; no email sent out to incident subscribers).

          "We are rotating keys after a security research team was able to confirm an exploit in one of our AWS environments. We're working with the security research team on the issue. No keys were publicly available, and no data has been compromised. You may see impacts on exports, reverse proxies, and other services. We'll have more updates as we continue to work on this incident."

          https://www.posthogstatus.com/incidents/01KSV6HJYKG5QJAP8HVTSQVSM1

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          • alesandroortiz@infosec.exchangeA alesandroortiz@infosec.exchange

            @olearysec AFAIK this is the first time they've done any planned maintenance that impacted web app availability, going back several years.

            There's been many unplanned issues that impacted web app availability, but none cited anything similar to this (like key rotation or security exercise).

            I hope you're right and they forgot to announce it, but also seems unusual given they haven't done this before in a way that impacted web app availability, either as planned maintenance or unplanned maintenance. All the unplanned maintenance affecting web app uptime I've seen has never cited security exercise or key rotation.

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            @olearysec Update: It's a security incident of sorts.

            https://infosec.exchange/@AlesandroOrtiz/116661217123074045

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            • alesandroortiz@infosec.exchangeA alesandroortiz@infosec.exchange

              Sounds like an external security researcher was able to access one of PostHog's AWS environments.

              Also note the quiet update of the existing status (same timestamp as earlier update; no email sent out to incident subscribers).

              "We are rotating keys after a security research team was able to confirm an exploit in one of our AWS environments. We're working with the security research team on the issue. No keys were publicly available, and no data has been compromised. You may see impacts on exports, reverse proxies, and other services. We'll have more updates as we continue to work on this incident."

              https://www.posthogstatus.com/incidents/01KSV6HJYKG5QJAP8HVTSQVSM1

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              Kudos to PostHog for the real-time disclosure at least. They could have disclosed this in a quiet blog post a week from now. Only customers subscribed to app status page incidents would be notified via email, so also need to see how they notify customers directly who aren't subscribed to status page.

              Also #hugops since security incidents are never fun.

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              • alesandroortiz@infosec.exchangeA alesandroortiz@infosec.exchange

                @olearysec AFAIK this is the first time they've done any planned maintenance that impacted web app availability, going back several years.

                There's been many unplanned issues that impacted web app availability, but none cited anything similar to this (like key rotation or security exercise).

                I hope you're right and they forgot to announce it, but also seems unusual given they haven't done this before in a way that impacted web app availability, either as planned maintenance or unplanned maintenance. All the unplanned maintenance affecting web app uptime I've seen has never cited security exercise or key rotation.

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                @AlesandroOrtiz

                Update: the 01:18 entry got edited. "Security exercise" is gone, now it says they're rotating keys after a research team confirmed an exploit in one of their AWS environments. So you called it. Incident-driven, not hygiene. Good catch.

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                • olearysec@infosec.exchangeO olearysec@infosec.exchange

                  @AlesandroOrtiz

                  Update: the 01:18 entry got edited. "Security exercise" is gone, now it says they're rotating keys after a research team confirmed an exploit in one of their AWS environments. So you called it. Incident-driven, not hygiene. Good catch.

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                  @olearysec Yeah, I posted about it here: https://infosec.exchange/@AlesandroOrtiz/116661218239511606

                  Was still really hoping you were right.

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                  • alesandroortiz@infosec.exchangeA alesandroortiz@infosec.exchange

                    Kudos to PostHog for the real-time disclosure at least. They could have disclosed this in a quiet blog post a week from now. Only customers subscribed to app status page incidents would be notified via email, so also need to see how they notify customers directly who aren't subscribed to status page.

                    Also #hugops since security incidents are never fun.

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                    Still waiting on promised postmortem. Latest update from Saturday:
                    "A security researcher privately disclosed a vulnerability that allowed access to production credentials. We've fixed the underlying issue and are actively working on additional hardening.

                    As a precaution, we immediately rotated our most sensitive production credentials."

                    https://www.posthogstatus.com/incidents/01KSV6HJYKG5QJAP8HVTSQVSM1

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                    • alesandroortiz@infosec.exchangeA alesandroortiz@infosec.exchange

                      Still waiting on promised postmortem. Latest update from Saturday:
                      "A security researcher privately disclosed a vulnerability that allowed access to production credentials. We've fixed the underlying issue and are actively working on additional hardening.

                      As a precaution, we immediately rotated our most sensitive production credentials."

                      https://www.posthogstatus.com/incidents/01KSV6HJYKG5QJAP8HVTSQVSM1

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                      @AlesandroOrtiz how is "PostHog" a real, actual name of a real, actual company? They can't be serious.

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                      • zkat@fedi.zkat.techZ zkat@fedi.zkat.tech

                        @AlesandroOrtiz how is "PostHog" a real, actual name of a real, actual company? They can't be serious.

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                        @zkat Apparently. I didn't even know the slang meaning until people started pointing it out to me recently. 😅 I have yet to find a good explanation for the name.

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