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  3. the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

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  • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

    @SecureOwl Can I quote you on that?

    secureowl@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @drwho yes

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    • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

      the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

      felis_catus_domesticus@mstdn.partyF This user is from outside of this forum
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      @SecureOwl

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      • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

        the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

        pfm@edolas.worldP This user is from outside of this forum
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        @SecureOwl They are also the same people refusing you international travel to cooperate with coworkers abroad.
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        • darwinwoodka@mastodon.socialD darwinwoodka@mastodon.social

          @SecureOwl

          "I want you here where I can tell you what to do and watch you do it but I also want to replace you with a machine."

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          @darwinwoodka @SecureOwl

          The real reasons:
          1. "Back to the office" is a covert way to get women with children to resign.

          Affordable childcare is very hard to find because it's a high exposure job (covid, measles, etc) thanks to RFK's antivaxxers.

          2. Men don't want to change the toner in the printer, plan staff events, tidy the bathrooms, wash their coffee cups, or make coffee for the team.

          All that "invisible work" that women in the workplace are expected to do.
          https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20240313-invisible-emotional-labour-women-in-workplace

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          • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

            @darwinwoodka @SecureOwl

            The real reasons:
            1. "Back to the office" is a covert way to get women with children to resign.

            Affordable childcare is very hard to find because it's a high exposure job (covid, measles, etc) thanks to RFK's antivaxxers.

            2. Men don't want to change the toner in the printer, plan staff events, tidy the bathrooms, wash their coffee cups, or make coffee for the team.

            All that "invisible work" that women in the workplace are expected to do.
            https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20240313-invisible-emotional-labour-women-in-workplace

            1/

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            3. Commercial leasing is collapsing.

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            Just look at Chicago, where there was only one groundbreaking on an office building last year, with zero expected in 2024. 

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            4. Fossil fuel industry wants long commutes.

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            Majority also want extra pay for RTW: Survey

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            5. Municipal revenue from traffic enforcement collapsed. Traffic fines are a tax on commuters.

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            6. AI is a threat to hang over worker's heads for wage suppression & mass layoffs.

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              6. AI is a threat to hang over worker's heads for wage suppression & mass layoffs.

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              "Don't ask for a cost of living increase to your salaries or we will AI your job."

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              America has experimented with suppressing wages to attract industrial investment. It only paved the way for offshoring that investment and technology.

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              The author of 'Why We Fear AI' on why he sees generative AI as "class warfare through enshittification."

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              • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

                the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

                x41h@infosec.exchangeX This user is from outside of this forum
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                @SecureOwl such a good point

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                • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

                  the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

                  faoluin@chitter.xyzF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @SecureOwl Where in Ohio? Asking for static-electricity-prone friends in Ohio.

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                  • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

                    @drwho yes

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                    @SecureOwl Thank you very much.

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                      the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

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                      @SecureOwl

                      The server is in Saudi Arabia

                      A place where they execute dissidents.

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                      Microsoft Confirms Saudi Arabia Datacenter Region Available for Customers to Run Cloud Workloads from Q4 2026 - Source EMEA

                      Microsoft today confirmed that customers will be able to run cloud workloads from its Saudi Arabia East datacenter region from Q4 2026, marking a major milestone in the company’s long-term investment in the country and its commitment to supporting Saudi Arabia’s digital and AI ambitions under Vision 2030.

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                      These jobs could have been American jobs
                      https://www.intelligentcio.com/me/2023/12/15/oracle-will-train-50000-saudi-nationals-in-artificial-intelligence-and-other-latest-digital-technologies/

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                      Microsoft accelerates AI skilling in Saudi Arabia, helping 3 million people acquire AI skills by 2030 - Source EMEA

                      Microsoft today announced a significant expansion of its AI skilling efforts in Saudi Arabia, building on the scale and impact of work delivered to date in support of Vision 2030 workforce priorities. Announced at the Microsoft AI Tour Riyadh, the company outlined its ambition to help a further three million people across the Kingdom acquire AI skills by 2030, reinforcing its long-term commitment to developing future-ready talent and enabling economic growth at scale.

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                      Saudi Arabia is the new Russian Internet Research Agency
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                      • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

                        the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

                        stinerman@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @SecureOwl I had this same thought earlier this week. Great minds!

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                        • faoluin@chitter.xyzF faoluin@chitter.xyz

                          @SecureOwl Where in Ohio? Asking for static-electricity-prone friends in Ohio.

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                          @faoluin @SecureOwl probably the new data centers east of Columbus.

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                          • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

                            the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

                            fuzzyfuzzyfungus@cyberplace.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @SecureOwl

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                            • felis_catus_domesticus@mstdn.partyF felis_catus_domesticus@mstdn.party

                              @SecureOwl

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                              @Felis_Catus_Domesticus @SecureOwl with respect, what about onion

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                              • falcennial@mastodon.socialF falcennial@mastodon.social

                                @Felis_Catus_Domesticus @SecureOwl with respect, what about onion

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                                @falcennial @SecureOwl

                                onions? what is onions, precious?

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