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  3. the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

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  • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

    the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

    drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #5

    @SecureOwl Can I quote you on that?

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    • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

      the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

      effariwhy@theforkiverse.comE This user is from outside of this forum
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      @SecureOwl and what's the point in collaborating in person when they've given us mountains of work collaborating with an AI Agent. These do nothing office people should be the first to be replaced by AI.

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      • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

        @SecureOwl Can I quote you on that?

        secureowl@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
        secureowl@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @drwho yes

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        • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

          the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

          felis_catus_domesticus@mstdn.partyF This user is from outside of this forum
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          @SecureOwl

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          • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

            the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

            pfm@edolas.worldP This user is from outside of this forum
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            @SecureOwl They are also the same people refusing you international travel to cooperate with coworkers abroad.
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            • darwinwoodka@mastodon.socialD darwinwoodka@mastodon.social

              @SecureOwl

              "I want you here where I can tell you what to do and watch you do it but I also want to replace you with a machine."

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              @darwinwoodka @SecureOwl

              The real reasons:
              1. "Back to the office" is a covert way to get women with children to resign.

              Affordable childcare is very hard to find because it's a high exposure job (covid, measles, etc) thanks to RFK's antivaxxers.

              2. Men don't want to change the toner in the printer, plan staff events, tidy the bathrooms, wash their coffee cups, or make coffee for the team.

              All that "invisible work" that women in the workplace are expected to do.
              https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20240313-invisible-emotional-labour-women-in-workplace

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              • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                @darwinwoodka @SecureOwl

                The real reasons:
                1. "Back to the office" is a covert way to get women with children to resign.

                Affordable childcare is very hard to find because it's a high exposure job (covid, measles, etc) thanks to RFK's antivaxxers.

                2. Men don't want to change the toner in the printer, plan staff events, tidy the bathrooms, wash their coffee cups, or make coffee for the team.

                All that "invisible work" that women in the workplace are expected to do.
                https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20240313-invisible-emotional-labour-women-in-workplace

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                2/

                3. Commercial leasing is collapsing.

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                Just look at Chicago, where there was only one groundbreaking on an office building last year, with zero expected in 2024. 

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                4. Fossil fuel industry wants long commutes.

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                Majority also want extra pay for RTW: Survey

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                6. AI is a threat to hang over worker's heads for wage suppression & mass layoffs.

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                  6. AI is a threat to hang over worker's heads for wage suppression & mass layoffs.

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                  3/

                  "Don't ask for a cost of living increase to your salaries or we will AI your job."

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                  How surveillance pay practices work, where they are increasingly deployed in the U.S. economy, and policy recommendations to ensure pay fairness and transparency.

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                  The (Other) Southern Strategy

                  America has experimented with suppressing wages to attract industrial investment. It only paved the way for offshoring that investment and technology.

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                  "AI is an attack from above on wages": An interview with cognitive scientist Hagen Blix

                  The author of 'Why We Fear AI' on why he sees generative AI as "class warfare through enshittification."

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                  • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

                    the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

                    x41h@infosec.exchangeX This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @SecureOwl such a good point

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                    • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

                      the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

                      faoluin@chitter.xyzF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @SecureOwl Where in Ohio? Asking for static-electricity-prone friends in Ohio.

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                      • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

                        @drwho yes

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                        @SecureOwl Thank you very much.

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                          the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

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                          @SecureOwl

                          The server is in Saudi Arabia

                          A place where they execute dissidents.

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                          Microsoft today confirmed that customers will be able to run cloud workloads from its Saudi Arabia East datacenter region from Q4 2026, marking a major milestone in the company’s long-term investment in the country and its commitment to supporting Saudi Arabia’s digital and AI ambitions under Vision 2030.

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                          These jobs could have been American jobs
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                          Microsoft today announced a significant expansion of its AI skilling efforts in Saudi Arabia, building on the scale and impact of work delivered to date in support of Vision 2030 workforce priorities. Announced at the Microsoft AI Tour Riyadh, the company outlined its ambition to help a further three million people across the Kingdom acquire AI skills by 2030, reinforcing its long-term commitment to developing future-ready talent and enabling economic growth at scale.

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                          • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

                            the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

                            stinerman@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @SecureOwl I had this same thought earlier this week. Great minds!

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                            • faoluin@chitter.xyzF faoluin@chitter.xyz

                              @SecureOwl Where in Ohio? Asking for static-electricity-prone friends in Ohio.

                              stinerman@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @faoluin @SecureOwl probably the new data centers east of Columbus.

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                              • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

                                the same people demanding you get back to the office to better collaborate in person as only humans can are the same people desperate to replace everyone with some code that runs on a server in ohio

                                fuzzyfuzzyfungus@cyberplace.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @SecureOwl

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                                • felis_catus_domesticus@mstdn.partyF felis_catus_domesticus@mstdn.party

                                  @SecureOwl

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                                  @Felis_Catus_Domesticus @SecureOwl with respect, what about onion

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                                  • falcennial@mastodon.socialF falcennial@mastodon.social

                                    @Felis_Catus_Domesticus @SecureOwl with respect, what about onion

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                                    @falcennial @SecureOwl

                                    onions? what is onions, precious?

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