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Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.

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  • misswarcraft@mastodon.socialM misswarcraft@mastodon.social

    @stefan @hpod16 This is a 2025 report. And one from Jan 2026, Insta active monthly users over 2 billion. When I came here I wanted Cats, Science and Warcraft. I follow those but very limited activity, but lots of Politics. That might be part of the problem. People are burned out on Politics except for a few hard core people.

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    @MissWarcraft Maybe, but I don't think so. Political content seems to do really well on Bluesky, I see a ton of it getting shared widely.

    I think it's just the toxic culture here. I've seen so many people driven out. There are too many self-righteous, gate-keepy people. On Bluesky, you can at least lock your replies, no wonder people feel safer there.

    Compare the drop-off on https://mastodon-analytics.com vs https://bluefacts.app/bluesky-user-growth.

    @hpod16

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    • misswarcraft@mastodon.socialM misswarcraft@mastodon.social

      @stefan @hpod16 BlueSky has 4 Million active monthly users too. Lot of Gaming, Cats. And they cracked down on the hate. The moderators issued warnings about that and it slowly stopped. Companies do not like hate, they know people from all demographics use their product. That is something hateful people don't realize.

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      @MissWarcraft I think it's a combination of the fediverse attracting a more techy, less socially adept crowd, with no tools for defending against harassment and unhelpful comments.

      There was a hope that at least some of it was due to Mastodon not showing all replies, so people would keep piling on, but I am not sure that was really the problem.

      Stefan Bohacek (@stefan@stefanbohacek.online)

      I'm curious, now that Mastodon is better at loading missing replies, have you noticed a decrease in mansplaining? #fediverse #poll #SocialMedia #mansplaining [ ] Yes, much better! [ ] A little bit better [ ] About the same [ ] Worse, somehow [ ] Not sure

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      • lucien@toot.communityL This user is from outside of this forum
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        @alice the internet needs more people like that πŸ™

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        • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

          Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
          The European Commission likes to tell them. πŸ’œ πŸ˜‰

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          @hpod16 hope to see more of them here.

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            @gunchleoc @lucien @hpod16
            My experience of friendica was awful. Full of dodgy accounts and some very nasty porn. Otherwise the only posts I saw were from Mastodon.
            I'm hoping it's improved since.

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            • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

              Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
              The European Commission likes to tell them. πŸ’œ πŸ˜‰

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              @hpod16 wow, great! @EUCommission

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              • sarahw@mastodon.greenS sarahw@mastodon.green

                @gunchleoc @lucien @hpod16
                My experience of friendica was awful. Full of dodgy accounts and some very nasty porn. Otherwise the only posts I saw were from Mastodon.
                I'm hoping it's improved since.

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                @Sarahw @gunchleoc @lucien @hpod16
                Mainly depending the server you are connected.
                We have choice, many choice, and we also can move from one to another, have several accounts, choose clients too.
                That is so great.

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                  @mstar @hpod16 that would be completely ignoring the huge impact of misskey and forks, and how many of the mastodon contributors are international

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                    @mstar @hpod16 true, but to call the fediverse essentially an "european social media" is a gross misunderstanding and misrepresentation of what happens in the space, both of open source in general and just the nature of the fediverse as a network

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                    • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                      Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                      The European Commission likes to tell them. πŸ’œ πŸ˜‰

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                      @hpod16 it is not the problem . Facebook is the only one who is about people you known rather then artists, celebrities , companies etx

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                      • nelson@wetdry.worldN nelson@wetdry.world

                        @mstar @hpod16 true, but to call the fediverse essentially an "european social media" is a gross misunderstanding and misrepresentation of what happens in the space, both of open source in general and just the nature of the fediverse as a network

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                        @nelson @mstar @hpod16 "linux [the kernel] is finnish and bsd is american" haha no both are international

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                        • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                          Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                          The European Commission likes to tell them. πŸ’œ πŸ˜‰

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                          @hpod16 ...and then propose a new proprietary network "W"

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                          • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                            Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                            The European Commission likes to tell them. πŸ’œ πŸ˜‰

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                            @hpod16 Ugh, I - as an American citizen - am so jealous. I have never in my thirty-year career in IT/Technology seen any unit of the American government make a non-terrible software/solution recommendation.

                            πŸ‘ Well don.e

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                            • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                              @moftasa
                              Yeah, what the Commission answered here isn't quite what they asked.
                              But with a generous reading, still an opportunity to promote the Fediverse.

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                              @hpod16 @moftasa It shouldn't really matter, though. The server may be EU based and only open to EU citizens to register, but it's not a "silo". It's simply one's home base. Other than server block lists implemented by the server's moderators, you can engage with anyone, anywhere, in the Fediverse.

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                              • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                                Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                                The European Commission likes to tell them. πŸ’œ πŸ˜‰

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                                @hpod16 one cannot blame them at all. Facebook, X, Instagram, and similar platforms owned by large IT companies rely on ease of use and comercial stuff to remain popular.

                                For good, alternatives like Mastodon remain social because they rely on recommendation rather than profit.

                                I try to carry my friends here, while looking for new ones (the second, being the easier).

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                                • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                                  @hpod16 @moftasa

                                  I read it like the person who asked wanted a silo while the EU Commission social media people answered with the actually open alternative. Like even if there were Fedi servers that allow only people verified to be EU citizens (or residents), one could still interact with all the world across servers.

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                                  @project1enigma @hpod16 @moftasa The moderators on the proposed EU centric server can be very strict about allowing engagement from the USA. Some USA based servers allow hateful content, others don't. The mods can block entire servers that are lax about allowing such negativity while still allowing engagement from "nice" servers. I imagine the original requester might be okay with that? Otherwise, yes, an EU server *could* be created that blocks literally EVERYTHING that isn't EU.

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                                  • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                                    Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                                    The European Commission likes to tell them. πŸ’œ πŸ˜‰

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                                    @hpod16 I'd go out on a limb to suggest that "EU citizen only" means "no foreigners, no migrants"

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                                    • xinit@mastodon.coffeeX xinit@mastodon.coffee

                                      @hpod16 I'd go out on a limb to suggest that "EU citizen only" means "no foreigners, no migrants"

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                                      @xinit gosh I hope that’s not what they meant.
                                      Maybe the social media manager was just a bit too excited about mastodon and looking for a way to promote it.

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                                      • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                                        @xinit gosh I hope that’s not what they meant.
                                        Maybe the social media manager was just a bit too excited about mastodon and looking for a way to promote it.

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                                        @hpod16 To be clear, the EU Commission is fine, it's the redacted person demanding the 'citizens-only' one that reads oddly to me.

                                        I might just be cynical πŸ˜„

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                                        • xinit@mastodon.coffeeX xinit@mastodon.coffee

                                          @hpod16 To be clear, the EU Commission is fine, it's the redacted person demanding the 'citizens-only' one that reads oddly to me.

                                          I might just be cynical πŸ˜„

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                                          @xinit I know I know. To be honest, I didn’t notice that part when I first read the comment, and slightly cringing about the phrasing now. When you handle thousands of comments per day your brain gets a bit muddled. So I kind of hope people stop noticing. πŸ€£πŸ’œ

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