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MNT Station prelaunch page is finally online at @crowdsupply: https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt-research/mnt-station

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  • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

    @mntmn @crowdsupply
    I couldn't see any PCIe slots. All I could see was a too compact PCB.
    USB-C power wastes a port and limits consumption. Stupid even for a laptop. Only just acceptable on a tablet, if there is more than one USB-C port.

    The EU USB-C mandate doesn't forbid additional connectors if needed.

    It's better than a Raspberry Pi for projects that need more I/O and CPU, but not a replacement for a decent laptop or even a compact workstation.

    It certainly deserves to succeed.

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    @raymaccarthy @crowdsupply but there is a secondary direct power connector on the board! JST-PH connector. you can feed in a wide range of voltages

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    • poleguy@mastodon.socialP poleguy@mastodon.social

      @mntmn @crowdsupply I recently had my company order me a ThunderScope for my day job... I'm awaiting delivery.

      Just today I was thinking that an MNT reform would work well as a controller/hub/visualization sever for my telemetry setup.

      I'm currently using a RPI CM5 and Alchitry Pt FPGA board. But that means I'll have to roll my own battery setup, etc.

      And now this post. Cool.

      I think I'll try to get the company to buy MNT hardware for me to try out as a next gen platform.

      #protonpack

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      @poleguy @crowdsupply oh neat, happy to hear! one can also make custom top plates with built-in display(s) for example

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      • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

        @raymaccarthy @crowdsupply but there is a secondary direct power connector on the board! JST-PH connector. you can feed in a wide range of voltages

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        @mntmn @crowdsupply
        Good.

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        • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

          MNT Station prelaunch page is finally online at @crowdsupply: https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt-research/mnt-station

          Subscribe by leaving your email there if you're interested in updates about our universal open hardware computer for your desktop, homelab, or wall-mounted edge device/router!

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          @mntmn It's going to be so tempting to replace the MNT Station's lid with a small ortholinear keyboard PCB. 👀💦 Turn it into a proper little wedge computer.

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          • flatfootfox@hachyderm.ioF flatfootfox@hachyderm.io

            @mntmn It's going to be so tempting to replace the MNT Station's lid with a small ortholinear keyboard PCB. 👀💦 Turn it into a proper little wedge computer.

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            @FlatFootFox haha oh yes

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            • virtuous_sloth@cosocial.caV virtuous_sloth@cosocial.ca

              @mntmn @holo_memory @bnys
              What version of USB are the external ports, if you don't mind? I assume something modern (3.1, 3.2, ? I can't keep track) but it would be nice to have the details on that page. Or is the USB version a function of the MNT Reform Processor Module?

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              @virtuous_sloth @holo_memory @bnys that's mostly depending on the processor module, correct!

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              • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                @chfkch @crowdsupply this is only prelaunch, so based on feedback we could still make changes like that

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                @mntmn @chfkch @crowdsupply If you could somehow make these boards have 3x (or even 4x) 1Gbit Ethernet interfaces they could replace aging pcengines APUs maybe

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                • stsp@bsd.networkS stsp@bsd.network

                  @mntmn @chfkch @crowdsupply If you could somehow make these boards have 3x (or even 4x) 1Gbit Ethernet interfaces they could replace aging pcengines APUs maybe

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                  @stsp @mntmn @chfkch @crowdsupply not saying, that I'm kind of dreaming about an APU replacement with 8gb ram, m.2 slot and and 3-4x 2.5 GbE, but..

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                  • fellmoon@bsd.networkF fellmoon@bsd.network

                    @stsp @mntmn @chfkch @crowdsupply not saying, that I'm kind of dreaming about an APU replacement with 8gb ram, m.2 slot and and 3-4x 2.5 GbE, but..

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                    @fellmoon @stsp @chfkch @crowdsupply is there a special usecase for more than 2 ethernet ports or is it to eliminate the need for an extra switch near it?

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                    • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                      @Mutesplash can be added via mpcie, just needs one more port opening/cover on a long side maybe

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                      @mntmn Interested in this because I just today upgraded internet and learned my old APUs cannot do line speed gigabit routing 😬 One of these guys have the juice?

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                      • gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.placeG gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        @Mutesplash @mntmn that remind me of the talk around the openwrt one.
                        Sure a router need a second gbit ethernet. IMO, more would be a waste. It's best to put a gbit switch in front of your router so you get as many port as you need in a much more affordable device.

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                        @gkrnours Two is enough, more is gravy

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                        • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                          @fellmoon @stsp @chfkch @crowdsupply is there a special usecase for more than 2 ethernet ports or is it to eliminate the need for an extra switch near it?

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                          @mntmn @stsp @chfkch @crowdsupply it may eliminate the need for an extra switch for small setups or enable physically isolated networking with multiple switches.

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                          • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                            MNT Station prelaunch page is finally online at @crowdsupply: https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt-research/mnt-station

                            Subscribe by leaving your email there if you're interested in updates about our universal open hardware computer for your desktop, homelab, or wall-mounted edge device/router!

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                            @mntmn it would be nice if there were a PCIe slot where one could choose to plug a quad-NIC or a multi SATA/NVMe adapter; depending on the need for a firewall/router or a NAS.

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                            • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                              MNT Station prelaunch page is finally online at @crowdsupply: https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt-research/mnt-station

                              Subscribe by leaving your email there if you're interested in updates about our universal open hardware computer for your desktop, homelab, or wall-mounted edge device/router!

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                              @mntmn @crowdsupply any chance of getting one of these without a processor module?

                              I have two modules at the moment

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                              • crypt17@mas.toC crypt17@mas.to

                                @mntmn @crowdsupply any chance of getting one of these without a processor module?

                                I have two modules at the moment

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                                @crypt17 @crowdsupply yes, of course!

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                                • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                                  @crypt17 @crowdsupply yes, of course!

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                                  @mntmn @crowdsupply
                                  nice I was looking at a mb 3.0 for my reform anyway

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                                  • mntmn@mastodon.socialM mntmn@mastodon.social

                                    @poleguy @crowdsupply oh neat, happy to hear! one can also make custom top plates with built-in display(s) for example

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                                    @mntmn @crowdsupply

                                    I see you have two Kintex versions of the processor. That's very interesting to me as an #FPGA dev.

                                    I'm generally a cheap-skate, so I look at the price of those and question the value proposition for an exploratory side project with no real aim, but on the other-hand, it is still cheaper than a lot of the dev boards.

                                    I'm also thinking I would like to build a mash-up with my Alchitry Pt based FPGA design that has a pair of coax run to the transceivers for telemetry.

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                                    • poleguy@mastodon.socialP poleguy@mastodon.social

                                      @mntmn @crowdsupply

                                      I see you have two Kintex versions of the processor. That's very interesting to me as an #FPGA dev.

                                      I'm generally a cheap-skate, so I look at the price of those and question the value proposition for an exploratory side project with no real aim, but on the other-hand, it is still cheaper than a lot of the dev boards.

                                      I'm also thinking I would like to build a mash-up with my Alchitry Pt based FPGA design that has a pair of coax run to the transceivers for telemetry.

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                                      @mntmn @crowdsupply Adding a top plate with a screen is an interesting idea.

                                      For pass one, my telemetry recording box will just have a power, switch, a toggle switch and some LED's: toggle it on to start recording and watch the LED's to be sure it is happily recording. Toggle it off to stop the recording.

                                      No display, because we don't want the complexity and we would have to deal with emissions off the screen, which risk disrupting the RF signals we are looking at.

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                                      • poleguy@mastodon.socialP poleguy@mastodon.social

                                        @mntmn @crowdsupply Adding a top plate with a screen is an interesting idea.

                                        For pass one, my telemetry recording box will just have a power, switch, a toggle switch and some LED's: toggle it on to start recording and watch the LED's to be sure it is happily recording. Toggle it off to stop the recording.

                                        No display, because we don't want the complexity and we would have to deal with emissions off the screen, which risk disrupting the RF signals we are looking at.

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                                        @mntmn @crowdsupply I do have longer-term thoughts of having some remote status monitoring as a second phase, and the idea of streaming some summary-status data over wifi/udp and having a MNT-reform-type device receive the multiple streams, build them into a dashboard and display them and/or stream them via websockets to a website/phone based browser so multiple people could monitor the system in real time.

                                        That's a stretch goal.

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                                        • poleguy@mastodon.socialP poleguy@mastodon.social

                                          @mntmn @crowdsupply I do have longer-term thoughts of having some remote status monitoring as a second phase, and the idea of streaming some summary-status data over wifi/udp and having a MNT-reform-type device receive the multiple streams, build them into a dashboard and display them and/or stream them via websockets to a website/phone based browser so multiple people could monitor the system in real time.

                                          That's a stretch goal.

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                                          @mntmn @crowdsupply Currently I'm using an FTDI FT600 based USB FIFO to get data into a CM5 to SSD.

                                          I'm wondering if I could have a more direct FPGA to MCU to SSD flow if I built an adapter to plug a small FPGA (Artix 7 100?) with transceivers feeding directly in to the MNT-reform MCU. Maybe I could avoid FTDI and USB entirely.

                                          Hmm... I'll have to read up on the architecture. Having open schematics opens up so many options. I love your work here. I hope corporate isn't a wet blanket.

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