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  3. There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia

There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia

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  • koh_kun@mastodon.socialK koh_kun@mastodon.social

    @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge I still think you're not realizing your mistake. Like how is, for example, consuming CP not unethical? Are you sure you don't mean "nothing can be ethical," if the viewer understands the implications?

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    @koh_kun @jaredwhite @verge I don't know what's cp. But we are talking about public / commercial content here

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    • ariaflame@masto.aiA ariaflame@masto.ai

      @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge You didn't specify that. You said no consumption could be unethical.

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      @ariaflame @jaredwhite @verge the conversation revolves around The Verge's article.

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      • D dm29@mastodon.social

        @ariaflame @jaredwhite @verge the conversation revolves around The Verge's article.

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        @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge You expanded it beyond that.

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        • ariaflame@masto.aiA ariaflame@masto.ai

          @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge You expanded it beyond that.

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          @ariaflame @jaredwhite @verge maybe you did. I'm just talking about common movies, books, series et cetera

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          • D dm29@mastodon.social

            @koh_kun @jaredwhite @verge I don't know what's cp. But we are talking about public / commercial content here

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            @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge even if we're limiting it to public, commercial content, how can nothing be unethical? Propaganda? Fake news? Plagiarism? Exploitation?

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            • D dm29@mastodon.social

              @ariaflame @jaredwhite @verge maybe you did. I'm just talking about common movies, books, series et cetera

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              @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge But beyond the scope of the verge article on a particular series where the person profiting from it is using those profits to target other people and hurt them. So if you give money to that then you are choosing to hurt those people. Personally I find that unethical. But you claim there is no unethical consumption. But I guess I have a more developed sense of ethics.

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              • ariaflame@masto.aiA ariaflame@masto.ai

                @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge But beyond the scope of the verge article on a particular series where the person profiting from it is using those profits to target other people and hurt them. So if you give money to that then you are choosing to hurt those people. Personally I find that unethical. But you claim there is no unethical consumption. But I guess I have a more developed sense of ethics.

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                @ariaflame @jaredwhite @verge a more developed ego for sure. Good for you

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                • verge@mastodon.socialV verge@mastodon.social

                  There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia

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                  @verge new HP movie coming soon? Nice

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                  • koh_kun@mastodon.socialK koh_kun@mastodon.social

                    @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge even if we're limiting it to public, commercial content, how can nothing be unethical? Propaganda? Fake news? Plagiarism? Exploitation?

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                    @koh_kun @jaredwhite @verge In my opinion you mix a ton of categorically different things to build a faux connection between terms. See, this thread is about The Verge's article. Don't go much further

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                    • D dm29@mastodon.social

                      @koh_kun @jaredwhite @verge In my opinion you mix a ton of categorically different things to build a faux connection between terms. See, this thread is about The Verge's article. Don't go much further

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                      @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge so then why expand the scope by saying "anything," instead of "this specific series in the Verge article"?

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                      • koh_kun@mastodon.socialK koh_kun@mastodon.social

                        @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge so then why expand the scope by saying "anything," instead of "this specific series in the Verge article"?

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                        @koh_kun @jaredwhite @verge because in my opinion people should not be so overly literal. There's always the context. Now it's explained anyway

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                        • D dm29@mastodon.social

                          @jaredwhite @verge in my opinion nothing can be unethical to consume. Granted the viewer understands the implications and context of the content.

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                          @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge Just to be clear -- would child pornography be unethical to consume? Nazi literature? I'm not talking about the latter from a scholarly perspective or something, I mean "consuming" The Eternal Jew for its own sake.

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                          • verge@mastodon.socialV verge@mastodon.social

                            There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia

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                            @verge No consumption of the Verge either since it won't take down the paywall

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                            • verge@mastodon.socialV verge@mastodon.social

                              There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia

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                              @verge Well I mean, every means, that's why bittorrent and many alternative exist.

                              And that's very ethical in such cases.

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                              • zeblarson@hcommons.socialZ zeblarson@hcommons.social

                                @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge Just to be clear -- would child pornography be unethical to consume? Nazi literature? I'm not talking about the latter from a scholarly perspective or something, I mean "consuming" The Eternal Jew for its own sake.

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                                @zeblarson @jaredwhite @verge I don't think a clarification is needed but yes. I agree

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                                  @zeblarson @jaredwhite @verge I don't think a clarification is needed but yes. I agree

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                                  @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge Wait, you agree that it's unethical? I'm sorry, but if you say "nothing is unethical to consume" people will walk away thinking that you're being literal, not "most things are fine" and I'm trying to figure out exactly where you stand.

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                                  • ariaflame@masto.aiA ariaflame@masto.ai

                                    @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge But beyond the scope of the verge article on a particular series where the person profiting from it is using those profits to target other people and hurt them. So if you give money to that then you are choosing to hurt those people. Personally I find that unethical. But you claim there is no unethical consumption. But I guess I have a more developed sense of ethics.

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                                    @ariaflame @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge you're quite surely typing from a device manufactured under work-force exploiting conditions and you're likely to own clothes manufactured through child labor somewhere in Bangladesh.
                                    Not to mention the implications of electronics waste disposal in some poor African countries, spreading cancer through the local population.
                                    Is that ethical for you? Where do you draw the line exactly ? And why is your line more ethical than someone else's?

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                                    • s1m0n4@ohai.socialS s1m0n4@ohai.social

                                      @ariaflame @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge you're quite surely typing from a device manufactured under work-force exploiting conditions and you're likely to own clothes manufactured through child labor somewhere in Bangladesh.
                                      Not to mention the implications of electronics waste disposal in some poor African countries, spreading cancer through the local population.
                                      Is that ethical for you? Where do you draw the line exactly ? And why is your line more ethical than someone else's?

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                                      @s1m0n4

                                      "Other bad shit happens. Therefore you can't comment on bad shit happening."

                                      @ariaflame @dm29@mastodon.social @jaredwhite @verge

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                                      • webshinra@pouet.chapril.orgW webshinra@pouet.chapril.org

                                        @verge Well I mean, every means, that's why bittorrent and many alternative exist.

                                        And that's very ethical in such cases.

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                                        @webshinra @verge no, actually, putting terf shit in your brain is not ethical

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                                        • s1m0n4@ohai.socialS s1m0n4@ohai.social

                                          @ariaflame @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge you're quite surely typing from a device manufactured under work-force exploiting conditions and you're likely to own clothes manufactured through child labor somewhere in Bangladesh.
                                          Not to mention the implications of electronics waste disposal in some poor African countries, spreading cancer through the local population.
                                          Is that ethical for you? Where do you draw the line exactly ? And why is your line more ethical than someone else's?

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                                          @s1m0n4 @ariaflame @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge
                                          Thanks for your useful contribution to the inaction...

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