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  • 0 08956495@infosec.exchange

    @irina @ianrogers @IngridHbn and this is how AI slop starts creeping into the fediverse

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    Step 4 made it obvious to me that it was slop. AI can draw the opposite of what it means and be completely straight-faced about being helpful.

    @08956495 @irina @ianrogers @IngridHbn

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      @IngridHbn Thank you for sharing this! I have pet giant African landsnails and the way I explain it is the shell is hard, like your fingernails, but it would hurt if someone picked you up by your fingernails too because they're connected to delicate tissue. I'd also add that sometimes touching the shell isn't enough - some of my snails are more cautious than others and retract immediately, whereas with some of the more bold ones you have to (gently!) tap repeatedly. Also they're less likely to go back in if they're eating something they like. It really does show that even creatures as simple as snails have distinct personalities and preferences

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        @IngridHbn I am totally here for this content.

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          #51

          @IngridHbn Source??? AI???

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          • ingridhbn@mastodon.onlineI ingridhbn@mastodon.online

            @08956495 it’s from a Belgian nature organisation

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            @IngridHbn @08956495 as far as i can tell, the original source is this page: facebook link - it seems the entire page is ai generated stuff like this. if you did get it from a reputable 'belgian nature organisation', they got duped too.

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              #53

              @IngridHbn It's true that you can cause mantle collapse in a snail by picking it up too roughly, but this image itself is clearly AI slop.

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              • kupac@functional.cafeK kupac@functional.cafe

                @IngridHbn
                As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.

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                #54
                @kupac @IngridHbn on the one hand this reply matches my experience, but on the other i've noticed a lot of normies are much, much more hasty and brutal with things who may benefit from this
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                • irina@critter.cafeI irina@critter.cafe

                  @ianrogers @IngridHbn it absolutely is AI generated. the original source is a facebook ai-generated "nature" page.

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                  #55

                  @irina thank you for the information. I unboosted it. That's why we should have always sources.
                  @ianrogers @IngridHbn

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                    @petealexharris
                    But if you just suddenly lift them off the ground, they think they're flying *really fast*!
                    @IngridHbn

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                    • duncanmsussex@mas.toD duncanmsussex@mas.to

                      @IngridHbn I feel bad for all the snails I've picked up the wrong way! I think they generally retracted, but still...

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                      #57

                      @DuncanMSussex If they didn't crash, it was all fine and correct! Not all snails "glue" so much to a road as this AI image suggests. 😉
                      @IngridHbn

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                        #58

                        @IngridHbn it's AI, sorry if it's real advice but I can't be sure so I'm not trusting this image

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                        • ingridhbn@mastodon.onlineI ingridhbn@mastodon.online

                          @08956495 it’s from a Belgian nature organisation

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                          @IngridHbn why can't you name them? Why can't you give us a source link?
                          Because people here don't boost #AISlop?!

                          @08956495

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                          • matsuzine@hachyderm.ioM matsuzine@hachyderm.io

                            @IngridHbn This is why I'm on mastodon.

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                            @matsuzine @IngridHbn to get Ai slop???

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                            • kupac@functional.cafeK kupac@functional.cafe

                              @IngridHbn
                              As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.

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                              @kupac Not all people have the perfect biologist's grip, especially kids. It's not so bad to teach people to be careful. But better not with AIslop. 😁 I shortly and gently touch the snails body, retraction, then I take it. I do that only if the snail is in danger (from a parking into the green).

                              @IngridHbn

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                                @petealexharris It's their house. So AISlop tells you to knock at the door. 😎 @kupac @IngridHbn

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                                • irina@critter.cafeI irina@critter.cafe

                                  @IngridHbn @08956495 as far as i can tell, the original source is this page: facebook link - it seems the entire page is ai generated stuff like this. if you did get it from a reputable 'belgian nature organisation', they got duped too.

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                                  @irina thanks. What a junk page!

                                  @IngridHbn @08956495

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                                  • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                                    Step 4 made it obvious to me that it was slop. AI can draw the opposite of what it means and be completely straight-faced about being helpful.

                                    @08956495 @irina @ianrogers @IngridHbn

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                                    @paco @08956495 @irina @ianrogers @IngridHbn
                                    In steps 2 and 3, the shell is *also* in the opposite direction.

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                                    • huguesross@mastodon.artH huguesross@mastodon.art

                                      @IngridHbn this will be useful for future snail-moving

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                                      @HuguesRoss But move them with an LLM only! @IngridHbn

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                                      • lojie@mastodon.deL lojie@mastodon.de

                                        @IngridHbn
                                        Good info to have!

                                        How to pick up a snail humanely

                                        #animalrescue

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                                        @Lojie No, it's how to pick up a #snail with #AISlop!

                                        The author of the post was told about it, also by biologists in the comments, people found the slop source on FB - but she still doesn't edit her post to say clearly what it is and where it comes from.

                                        @IngridHbn

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                                        • goodnewsgreyshoes@mastodon.artG goodnewsgreyshoes@mastodon.art

                                          @IngridHbn This infographic is fantastic!!👀✨

                                          I really appreciate the crystal-clear messaging in these diagrams; that left-side image ALONE communicates all the information the audience needs to recognize that *our natural instinct (to grab & lift immediately) is BAD!*😳‼️

                                          Likewise, the right-side images lay out an easily interpreted memorable sequence of instructions. So good!!😘👌

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                                          @GoodNewsGreyShoes @IngridHbn
                                          It's AI generated.

                                          Step 1 has the snail pointing in the opposite direction as the next 3 steps, and the text in the image says otherwise.
                                          https://infosec.exchange/@paco/116130125619718975

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