@paco @BenAveling it is just a stupid electronic device
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Now people who know very little in a domain feel like they can skip learning that domain and just make a personal tool with an LLM that will meet their needs.
That's what I do with 99% of the objects in my life? Everyone does? I have almost zero knowledge of how my clothes and car and house and prescription drugs are manufactured. I just use them and focus on what I happen to do for a job (computer programming).
@deafferret I think you missed the point. You don’t MAKE car, house, clothes, or drugs. And you don’t think you can, either. You use the ones others make.
But people think they can use an LLM to make software, when they’ve never done that before. And not just any software, but software in a domain where they have only cursory knowledge.
Like a person who has never designed a game and has never made a mobile app (and maybe has never written code at all) thinks they can use an LLM to make a mobile game.
If you said you could use an LLM to make your own prescription drugs, when you’re a software developer by trade, then you’d be like these non-programmers who think they can write software now that they have an LLM.
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Bluesky asked me to give my ID information and documents to a third party provider when Australia introduced its under-16 ban a month or two ago.I deleted Bluesky.
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@paco No one should let anyone get away with "third party". Your subcontractor - you own it, just as if it had been your own employees. Don't like it? Don't outsource your responsibilities.
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@paco Yet another reason in the litany of reasons I refuse to join Discord. People need to like... stop... using it.
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@paco Fucking hell
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No they didn’t. They did their own age verification and stored images of passports in Zendesk (iirc, or some other support desk software). Discord acted completely irresponsibly and discord NEEDS age verification due to their young target audience and child enthusiast problem. I agree with your point, but your representation of what happened at Discord is entirely wrong.
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No they didn’t. They did their own age verification and stored images of passports in Zendesk (iirc, or some other support desk software). Discord acted completely irresponsibly and discord NEEDS age verification due to their young target audience and child enthusiast problem. I agree with your point, but your representation of what happened at Discord is entirely wrong.Yes, I remembered correctly: it was zendesk. youtube.com/watch?v=GbXATeFfkRA
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@paco Damn, this is both hilarious and terrifying. 70,000 people handed over their documents so Discord could “verify their age,” and now all those files are just floating around the internet. Does anyone really think this is safe?
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@paco “At Discord, protecting the privacy and security of our users is a top priority.” says the service without e2ee for direct messages.
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@paco Well, you know, at least that company knows how to NOT safely store sensitive personal data...
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@paco Yet another reason in the litany of reasons I refuse to join Discord. People need to like... stop... using it.
I had to ask something on a discord forum about this app I use.
The tone of voice is of teens on the loose.
While it's ok & just fine to be a teen on the loose (I've been one myself, and looking back I firmly believe it's a fundamental human right to do really dumb things), COMMA, it's, well, a state of mind I left behind. Mostly. I think. I hope.
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Bluesky asked me to give my ID information and documents to a third party provider when Australia introduced its under-16 ban a month or two ago.I deleted Bluesky.
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@kerfuffle Is it worth highlighting? I mean, admitting that it happened is surely the lowest possible expectation. Do we pat them on the back and give them a participation trophy? In some jurisdictions, this disclosure is mandated by law (which is why these laws are good). Is it worth mentioning that they chose to do what the law said they must?
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No they didn’t. They did their own age verification and stored images of passports in Zendesk (iirc, or some other support desk software). Discord acted completely irresponsibly and discord NEEDS age verification due to their young target audience and child enthusiast problem. I agree with your point, but your representation of what happened at Discord is entirely wrong.
@michael Was it Zendesk? Someone else replied that it was 5CA and sent this link
Holding statement regarding Security Incident
We are aware of a recent security incident. Learn how 5CA is responding and protecting client and community data.
5CA (5ca.com)
The phrase “our vendor used to review age-related appeals” in the discord disclosure made it sound like the vendor did the appeals. So maybe discord did the initial verification, but this vendor was doing more than just storing images.
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@paco inevitable.
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@michael Was it Zendesk? Someone else replied that it was 5CA and sent this link
Holding statement regarding Security Incident
We are aware of a recent security incident. Learn how 5CA is responding and protecting client and community data.
5CA (5ca.com)
The phrase “our vendor used to review age-related appeals” in the discord disclosure made it sound like the vendor did the appeals. So maybe discord did the initial verification, but this vendor was doing more than just storing images.
Then I might have been wrong and there were more leaks. They definitely had one last year, where they hosted pictures of peoples' passports in Zendesk (which is all kinds of insane).
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When I logged back into LinkedIn a few a months ago (after years of blissful absence) it asked me to "verify" my identity. So I click "ugh, fine" and got redirected to a 3rd party asking for all of my personal info. lol. that was a quick "Cancel".
