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    @ShredderFeeder Absolutely bonkers and utter hypocrisy!!
    If you extend it a bit, you'll be able to see the why; why the blank-check acceptance of very badly disguised "benevolent" authoritarians.

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      @ShredderFeeder

      Hmmm... Let's see. They won't be able to spend time sneering at poor people, demeaning the sick, chuckling with pals about buying off the Government, cornering markets, competing with fellow fat rats over the most expensive car/ airplane/ villa /island/ ranch/ wardrobe/... , savoring that the "losers" aren't eating caviar...

      They won't have any of their pleasures!

      But real Christians can enjoy thinking of them surrounded by other fat rats, all singing hymns, 24/7 ➡️ ♾️

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        @ShredderFeeder They further describe "heaven" as having streets lined with gold. People will swallow a whole lot on "faith" won't they?

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          @ShredderFeeder huh ya know what…?

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            @ShredderFeeder They think of heaven that way because they believe only people exactly like them will be there. It's consistent with their world view because it's all only for them.

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            • nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchangeN nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchange

              @ShredderFeeder They think of heaven that way because they believe only people exactly like them will be there. It's consistent with their world view because it's all only for them.

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              @Nonya_Bidniss @ShredderFeeder
              x1000

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                @ShredderFeeder The description of heaven is not quite fitting when it comes to Christianity. The Christian heaven has a hierarchy of people nearer to god and people farer from him. So a rich and priviliged Christian can die believing that he will have a better place in heaven than all the other peasants, at least when he is free of sin and did all the sacraments...

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                  @ShredderFeeder Pretty sure they describe heaven as a place where they'll "have a mansion just over the hilltop" and it's a "bright land where we'll never grow old."

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                    @ShredderFeeder #DemocraticSocialism #Revolution

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                      @ShredderFeeder Marxism also emerged from the Abrahamic monotheistic tradition, only with heaven relocated from the afterlife to the human world. The United States is a right-wing country that has long been hostile to welfare policies, yet its culture core is also so called WASP — which is, in fact, a contradiction in itself.

                      However, in reality, many countries that have implemented Marxism have turned into entities where a small clique monopolizes the distribution of resources.

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                      • turquoisec@mastodon.socialT turquoisec@mastodon.social

                        @ShredderFeeder Marxism also emerged from the Abrahamic monotheistic tradition, only with heaven relocated from the afterlife to the human world. The United States is a right-wing country that has long been hostile to welfare policies, yet its culture core is also so called WASP — which is, in fact, a contradiction in itself.

                        However, in reality, many countries that have implemented Marxism have turned into entities where a small clique monopolizes the distribution of resources.

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                        @TurquoiseC it's why marxism and "communism" will never work.

                        Human beings suck, universally.

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                          @ShredderFeeder I don't think those are the same religious people. Those who are invested in God's economy are not generally those who are invested in empire/nationalism. Even though they might claim the same religion.

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                            @ShredderFeeder Uhm.....Catholics on line two. They'd like a word with you about this 'classless heaven' presumption.

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                              @ShredderFeeder Socialism is oligarchy of government. It has very little to do with classless or heaven... some pigs are more equal than others in socialism's power dynamic by definition.

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                                @ShredderFeeder Socialism is oligarchy of government. It has very little to do with classless or heaven... some pigs are more equal than others in socialism's power dynamic by definition.

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                                @Scrimshaw9 @ShredderFeeder I think what you miss in animal farm, presuming you've read it, is that the pigs are also the animals that interface with the human world and their behavior becomes ever more like that of the farmer who they revolted against in the first place. Are they inherently corrupt or is their sway towards capitalism the corrupting force?

                                I feel Orwell was a better writer than most of the people who quote him.

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                                  @ShredderFeeder They further describe "heaven" as having streets lined with gold. People will swallow a whole lot on "faith" won't they?

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                                  @PerryM @ShredderFeeder I mean... Would gold streets even be good? Seems like they wouldn't offer good traction for vehicles and be too cold and hard on the feet. Why not streets paved with clouds or the fluff and purr of kittens without the guilt of wearing them as mittens?

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                                  • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                                    @ShredderFeeder Socialism is in the bible - there's this bit where a gang of disciples pool their assets, if I remember correctly from school all those decades ago.

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                                    @TimWardCam
                                    Not all of them pooled their assets. Lying about holding back some assets was a grievous sin. Note not the holding back, the lying.

                                    @ShredderFeeder

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                                    • ennopark@mastodon.socialE ennopark@mastodon.social

                                      @ShredderFeeder The description of heaven is not quite fitting when it comes to Christianity. The Christian heaven has a hierarchy of people nearer to god and people farer from him. So a rich and priviliged Christian can die believing that he will have a better place in heaven than all the other peasants, at least when he is free of sin and did all the sacraments...

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                                      @ennopark
                                      The bible often states Gods shows no favoritism. There is also the parable of the poor man in heaven and the rich man suffering in hell.

                                      @ShredderFeeder

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                                      • obscurestar@mastodon.socialO obscurestar@mastodon.social

                                        @Scrimshaw9 @ShredderFeeder I think what you miss in animal farm, presuming you've read it, is that the pigs are also the animals that interface with the human world and their behavior becomes ever more like that of the farmer who they revolted against in the first place. Are they inherently corrupt or is their sway towards capitalism the corrupting force?

                                        I feel Orwell was a better writer than most of the people who quote him.

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                                        @obscurestar @ShredderFeeder No. I didn't miss that but if you need it, I think you are very very smart. Just like your mother always told you.

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                                          @ShredderFeeder Christians, yes.
                                          Muslim paradise is quite different and misogynistic, separate heavens for men, married women and maidens.
                                          Valhalla is even worse.
                                          Basically just a promise of everything you want as long as you toe the line.

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