Mass surveillance and censorship are escalating in many countries right now.
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And then it was revealed that Thorn, together with the EU Commission, had also started and funded “children’s rights organizations” that had supported the proposal. What appeared publicly to be charitable organizations were in fact lobby groups.
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And then it was revealed that Europol wanted unlimited access and wanted to use the scanning for more than just child abuse crimes, saying that all data – also unfiltered and innocent material – should be stored because it “could at some point be useful to law enforcement”.
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And then it was revealed that employees at Europol had joined Thorn, to lobby their old colleagues.
And then?
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And then it was revealed that Europol wanted unlimited access and wanted to use the scanning for more than just child abuse crimes, saying that all data – also unfiltered and innocent material – should be stored because it “could at some point be useful to law enforcement”.
And then?
And then it was revealed that employees at Europol had joined Thorn, to lobby their old colleagues.
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And then politicians in Brussels wanted to exempt themselves from the scanning.
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And then the European Parliament, in an almost historic consensus, voted against the proposal and called Chat Control nothing but mass surveillance. As one of the members of the parliament said: “The Commission wasn’t focusing on protecting children but wanted mass surveillance.”
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And then politicians in Brussels wanted to exempt themselves from the scanning.
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And then the European Parliament, in an almost historic consensus, voted against the proposal and called Chat Control nothing but mass surveillance. As one of the members of the parliament said: “The Commission wasn’t focusing on protecting children but wanted mass surveillance.”
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And then The Council of the EU (law proposals must go through both the Parliament and the Council), after three years of negotiation, finally reached a common position on Chat Control. The requirement for mandatory scanning (including end-to-end encrypted messaging services) was removed, which is a major victory, but several problematic elements remain in the Council's position. For instance, the Council wants to demand ID Control to use messaging services (including end-to-end encrypted).
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And then The Council of the EU (law proposals must go through both the Parliament and the Council), after three years of negotiation, finally reached a common position on Chat Control. The requirement for mandatory scanning (including end-to-end encrypted messaging services) was removed, which is a major victory, but several problematic elements remain in the Council's position. For instance, the Council wants to demand ID Control to use messaging services (including end-to-end encrypted).
And then?
And then, in 2026 the final negotiations began, between the European Commission, the European Parliament, and the Council of the EU. At the same time, the European Commission is working on a Plan B, through the initiative Going Dark/ProtectEU, where they once again try to force total surveillance (this time organized crime is the excuse) on the citizens of the EU.
And then?
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And then, in 2026 the final negotiations began, between the European Commission, the European Parliament, and the Council of the EU. At the same time, the European Commission is working on a Plan B, through the initiative Going Dark/ProtectEU, where they once again try to force total surveillance (this time organized crime is the excuse) on the citizens of the EU.
And then?
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Mass surveillance and censorship are escalating in many countries right now. There is a global attack on secure encrypted communication. Often, authorities, politicians, and tech companies work together to push for new laws. One example: when Ashton Kutcher (yes, the actor), through his tech company Thorn, tried to introduce total surveillance of all EU citizens through undemocratic and corrupt methods.
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@mullvadnet Thank you for the exhaustive explanation.
It's sad that you had to waste your precious time on that.@cavallo_pazzo @mullvadnet
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And then?
And then, in 2026 the final negotiations began, between the European Commission, the European Parliament, and the Council of the EU. At the same time, the European Commission is working on a Plan B, through the initiative Going Dark/ProtectEU, where they once again try to force total surveillance (this time organized crime is the excuse) on the citizens of the EU.
And then?
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@mullvadnet (feeling like a pop-trivia idiot - even though I started at the top witg mention of Ashton Kutcher, the ‘and then?’ you kept saying didn’t <click> until this last note. 10 out of 10.)
Grim, being supportive and respectful of Kutcher’s effort against human trafficking, but ‘oh, hell no’ at the intrusion and implausibility of this proposal.
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Mass surveillance and censorship are escalating in many countries right now. There is a global attack on secure encrypted communication. Often, authorities, politicians, and tech companies work together to push for new laws. One example: when Ashton Kutcher (yes, the actor), through his tech company Thorn, tried to introduce total surveillance of all EU citizens through undemocratic and corrupt methods.
@mullvadnet I did not saw that coming
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And then it was revealed that Thorn, the organization founded by Ashton Kutcher and which had been lobbying for Chat Control from the beginning, was selling the kind of scanning technology that could be used for Chat Control – despite being registered as a charity organization in the EU’s lobbying registry.
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@mullvadnet christ on a bike
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Mass surveillance and censorship are escalating in many countries right now. There is a global attack on secure encrypted communication. Often, authorities, politicians, and tech companies work together to push for new laws. One example: when Ashton Kutcher (yes, the actor), through his tech company Thorn, tried to introduce total surveillance of all EU citizens through undemocratic and corrupt methods.
@mullvadnet Ashton Kutcher wrote character reference letters in support of his former co-star Danny Masterson, who was convicted of rape.
That is the measure of the man running Thorn.
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Mass surveillance and censorship are escalating in many countries right now. There is a global attack on secure encrypted communication. Often, authorities, politicians, and tech companies work together to push for new laws. One example: when Ashton Kutcher (yes, the actor), through his tech company Thorn, tried to introduce total surveillance of all EU citizens through undemocratic and corrupt methods.
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And then?
And then, in 2026 the final negotiations began, between the European Commission, the European Parliament, and the Council of the EU. At the same time, the European Commission is working on a Plan B, through the initiative Going Dark/ProtectEU, where they once again try to force total surveillance (this time organized crime is the excuse) on the citizens of the EU.
And then?
- YouTube
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No to Chat Control and all of its forms!
That's the kind of laws you get - and you constantly fight against - when you don't have real accountability as is the case in the Europan Commission (and most top EU institutions)
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Mass surveillance and censorship are escalating in many countries right now. There is a global attack on secure encrypted communication. Often, authorities, politicians, and tech companies work together to push for new laws. One example: when Ashton Kutcher (yes, the actor), through his tech company Thorn, tried to introduce total surveillance of all EU citizens through undemocratic and corrupt methods.
@mullvadnet Great writeup, raising awareness on this is very important. Mullvad reporting thoroughly on this topic, I appreciate it.
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And then, in 2026 the final negotiations began, between the European Commission, the European Parliament, and the Council of the EU. At the same time, the European Commission is working on a Plan B, through the initiative Going Dark/ProtectEU, where they once again try to force total surveillance (this time organized crime is the excuse) on the citizens of the EU.
And then?
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Nothing was wasted today. Fortunately I've actually learned something today. Thank you.@Inmod @cavallo_pazzo @mullvadnet big time helpful. 🤌
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@mullvadnet (feeling like a pop-trivia idiot - even though I started at the top witg mention of Ashton Kutcher, the ‘and then?’ you kept saying didn’t <click> until this last note. 10 out of 10.)
Grim, being supportive and respectful of Kutcher’s effort against human trafficking, but ‘oh, hell no’ at the intrusion and implausibility of this proposal.
@InkomTech @mullvadnet good context.
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Mass surveillance and censorship are escalating in many countries right now. There is a global attack on secure encrypted communication. Often, authorities, politicians, and tech companies work together to push for new laws. One example: when Ashton Kutcher (yes, the actor), through his tech company Thorn, tried to introduce total surveillance of all EU citizens through undemocratic and corrupt methods.
@mullvadnet hell of a butterfly effect
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@mullvadnet (feeling like a pop-trivia idiot - even though I started at the top witg mention of Ashton Kutcher, the ‘and then?’ you kept saying didn’t <click> until this last note. 10 out of 10.)
Grim, being supportive and respectful of Kutcher’s effort against human trafficking, but ‘oh, hell no’ at the intrusion and implausibility of this proposal.
@InkomTech @mullvadnet Just adding this to the thread because Ashton is questionable at best: https://youtu.be/wgN3HA1AI3Y
These folks really do need to be scrutinized more as they bring their money and fame into policymaking.
