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Mass surveillance and censorship are escalating in many countries right now.

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  • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

    First, Ashton Kutcher convinced the EU Commission that they could scan everything on an EU citizen’s phone or computer (messages, photos, emails, phone calls, all of it) for child sexual abuse material without, at the same time, looking at the content of other types of communication.

    And then?

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    And then EU Commissioner Ylva Johansson presented the legislative proposal called Chat Control, which aimed to scan everything on all EU citizens' phones and computers (including conversations in end-to-end-encrypted messaging services). The message from the Commission was: we will only search for child sexual abuse material (CSAM).

    And then?

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    • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

      And then EU Commissioner Ylva Johansson presented the legislative proposal called Chat Control, which aimed to scan everything on all EU citizens' phones and computers (including conversations in end-to-end-encrypted messaging services). The message from the Commission was: we will only search for child sexual abuse material (CSAM).

      And then?

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      And then experts from all over the world explained to her that the kind of scanning she was talking about (as Ylva described it: a drug-sniffing dog that can detect illegal content in a message without reading the message) simply cannot be done safely, and that Chat Control would mean the end of privacy and pose a security threat to all Europeans. Ylva responded with: “what about the children?”

      And then?

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      • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

        And then experts from all over the world explained to her that the kind of scanning she was talking about (as Ylva described it: a drug-sniffing dog that can detect illegal content in a message without reading the message) simply cannot be done safely, and that Chat Control would mean the end of privacy and pose a security threat to all Europeans. Ylva responded with: “what about the children?”

        And then?

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        And then it was revealed that Thorn, the organization founded by Ashton Kutcher and which had been lobbying for Chat Control from the beginning, was selling the kind of scanning technology that could be used for Chat Control – despite being registered as a charity organization in the EU’s lobbying registry.

        And then?

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        • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

          And then it was revealed that Thorn, the organization founded by Ashton Kutcher and which had been lobbying for Chat Control from the beginning, was selling the kind of scanning technology that could be used for Chat Control – despite being registered as a charity organization in the EU’s lobbying registry.

          And then?

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          And then it was revealed that Thorn, together with the EU Commission, had also started and funded “children’s rights organizations” that had supported the proposal. What appeared publicly to be charitable organizations were in fact lobby groups.

          And then?

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          • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

            And then it was revealed that Thorn, together with the EU Commission, had also started and funded “children’s rights organizations” that had supported the proposal. What appeared publicly to be charitable organizations were in fact lobby groups.

            And then?

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            And then it was revealed that Europol wanted unlimited access and wanted to use the scanning for more than just child abuse crimes, saying that all data – also unfiltered and innocent material – should be stored because it “could at some point be useful to law enforcement”.

            And then?

            And then it was revealed that employees at Europol had joined Thorn, to lobby their old colleagues.

            And then?

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            • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

              And then it was revealed that Europol wanted unlimited access and wanted to use the scanning for more than just child abuse crimes, saying that all data – also unfiltered and innocent material – should be stored because it “could at some point be useful to law enforcement”.

              And then?

              And then it was revealed that employees at Europol had joined Thorn, to lobby their old colleagues.

              And then?

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              And then politicians in Brussels wanted to exempt themselves from the scanning.

              And then?

              And then the European Parliament, in an almost historic consensus, voted against the proposal and called Chat Control nothing but mass surveillance. As one of the members of the parliament said: “The Commission wasn’t focusing on protecting children but wanted mass surveillance.”

              And then?

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              • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                And then politicians in Brussels wanted to exempt themselves from the scanning.

                And then?

                And then the European Parliament, in an almost historic consensus, voted against the proposal and called Chat Control nothing but mass surveillance. As one of the members of the parliament said: “The Commission wasn’t focusing on protecting children but wanted mass surveillance.”

                And then?

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                And then The Council of the EU (law proposals must go through both the Parliament and the Council), after three years of negotiation, finally reached a common position on Chat Control. The requirement for mandatory scanning (including end-to-end encrypted messaging services) was removed, which is a major victory, but several problematic elements remain in the Council's position. For instance, the Council wants to demand ID Control to use messaging services (including end-to-end encrypted).

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                • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                  And then The Council of the EU (law proposals must go through both the Parliament and the Council), after three years of negotiation, finally reached a common position on Chat Control. The requirement for mandatory scanning (including end-to-end encrypted messaging services) was removed, which is a major victory, but several problematic elements remain in the Council's position. For instance, the Council wants to demand ID Control to use messaging services (including end-to-end encrypted).

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                  And then?

                  And then, in 2026 the final negotiations began, between the European Commission, the European Parliament, and the Council of the EU. At the same time, the European Commission is working on a Plan B, through the initiative Going Dark/ProtectEU, where they once again try to force total surveillance (this time organized crime is the excuse) on the citizens of the EU.

                  And then?

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                  • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                    And then?

                    And then, in 2026 the final negotiations began, between the European Commission, the European Parliament, and the Council of the EU. At the same time, the European Commission is working on a Plan B, through the initiative Going Dark/ProtectEU, where they once again try to force total surveillance (this time organized crime is the excuse) on the citizens of the EU.

                    And then?

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                    @mullvadnet Thank you for the exhaustive explanation. 👍 It's sad that you had to waste your precious time on that.

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                    • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                      Mass surveillance and censorship are escalating in many countries right now. There is a global attack on secure encrypted communication. Often, authorities, politicians, and tech companies work together to push for new laws. One example: when Ashton Kutcher (yes, the actor), through his tech company Thorn, tried to introduce total surveillance of all EU citizens through undemocratic and corrupt methods.

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                      @mullvadnet

                      Tack så mycket!
                      Hälsningar från Tyskland.

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                      • cavallo_pazzo@toot.communityC cavallo_pazzo@toot.community

                        @mullvadnet Thank you for the exhaustive explanation. 👍 It's sad that you had to waste your precious time on that.

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                        @cavallo_pazzo @mullvadnet
                        Nothing was wasted today. Fortunately I've actually learned something today. Thank you.

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                        • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                          And then?

                          And then, in 2026 the final negotiations began, between the European Commission, the European Parliament, and the Council of the EU. At the same time, the European Commission is working on a Plan B, through the initiative Going Dark/ProtectEU, where they once again try to force total surveillance (this time organized crime is the excuse) on the citizens of the EU.

                          And then?

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                          @mullvadnet (feeling like a pop-trivia idiot - even though I started at the top witg mention of Ashton Kutcher, the ‘and then?’ you kept saying didn’t <click> until this last note. 10 out of 10.)

                          Grim, being supportive and respectful of Kutcher’s effort against human trafficking, but ‘oh, hell no’ at the intrusion and implausibility of this proposal.

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                          • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                            Mass surveillance and censorship are escalating in many countries right now. There is a global attack on secure encrypted communication. Often, authorities, politicians, and tech companies work together to push for new laws. One example: when Ashton Kutcher (yes, the actor), through his tech company Thorn, tried to introduce total surveillance of all EU citizens through undemocratic and corrupt methods.

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                            @mullvadnet I did not saw that coming

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                            • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                              And then it was revealed that Thorn, the organization founded by Ashton Kutcher and which had been lobbying for Chat Control from the beginning, was selling the kind of scanning technology that could be used for Chat Control – despite being registered as a charity organization in the EU’s lobbying registry.

                              And then?

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                              @mullvadnet christ on a bike

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                              • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                Mass surveillance and censorship are escalating in many countries right now. There is a global attack on secure encrypted communication. Often, authorities, politicians, and tech companies work together to push for new laws. One example: when Ashton Kutcher (yes, the actor), through his tech company Thorn, tried to introduce total surveillance of all EU citizens through undemocratic and corrupt methods.

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                                @mullvadnet Ashton Kutcher wrote character reference letters in support of his former co-star Danny Masterson, who was convicted of rape.

                                That is the measure of the man running Thorn.

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                                • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                  Mass surveillance and censorship are escalating in many countries right now. There is a global attack on secure encrypted communication. Often, authorities, politicians, and tech companies work together to push for new laws. One example: when Ashton Kutcher (yes, the actor), through his tech company Thorn, tried to introduce total surveillance of all EU citizens through undemocratic and corrupt methods.

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                                  @mullvadnet

                                  thank you for sharing wow

                                  i will utilize your 'and then?' approach

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                                  • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                    And then?

                                    And then, in 2026 the final negotiations began, between the European Commission, the European Parliament, and the Council of the EU. At the same time, the European Commission is working on a Plan B, through the initiative Going Dark/ProtectEU, where they once again try to force total surveillance (this time organized crime is the excuse) on the citizens of the EU.

                                    And then?

                                    - YouTube

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                                    No to Chat Control and all of its forms!

                                    That's the kind of laws you get - and you constantly fight against - when you don't have real accountability as is the case in the Europan Commission (and most top EU institutions)

                                    @mullvadnet

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                                    • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                      Mass surveillance and censorship are escalating in many countries right now. There is a global attack on secure encrypted communication. Often, authorities, politicians, and tech companies work together to push for new laws. One example: when Ashton Kutcher (yes, the actor), through his tech company Thorn, tried to introduce total surveillance of all EU citizens through undemocratic and corrupt methods.

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                                      @mullvadnet Great writeup, raising awareness on this is very important. Mullvad reporting thoroughly on this topic, I appreciate it.

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                                      • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                        And then?

                                        And then, in 2026 the final negotiations began, between the European Commission, the European Parliament, and the Council of the EU. At the same time, the European Commission is working on a Plan B, through the initiative Going Dark/ProtectEU, where they once again try to force total surveillance (this time organized crime is the excuse) on the citizens of the EU.

                                        And then?

                                        - YouTube

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                                        @mullvadnet
                                        🤦‍♂️ ffs
                                        #doomed

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                                        • inmod@mastodon.socialI inmod@mastodon.social

                                          @cavallo_pazzo @mullvadnet
                                          Nothing was wasted today. Fortunately I've actually learned something today. Thank you.

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                                          @Inmod @cavallo_pazzo @mullvadnet big time helpful. 🤌

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