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I'm just a girl, incrementing the counter on the number of times I have been sent a plaintext email from a Protonmail user telling me that the message is encrypted.

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  • cawguy@mstdn.caC cawguy@mstdn.ca

    @JustinDerrick Thanks for the long description. So would this small percentage of people using this setup be due to a network effect/getting friends to comply issue, or do most people simply not care about privacy?

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    @CAWguy You'd have to get everyone you know to leave their webmail providers, and only receive eMail with specific physical devices (phone / laptop / desktop). I haven't been able to get anyone I know to give up their webmail accounts, even by offering them free hosting and vanity addresses on my mail server.

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    • justinderrick@mstdn.caJ justinderrick@mstdn.ca

      @CAWguy You'd have to get everyone you know to leave their webmail providers, and only receive eMail with specific physical devices (phone / laptop / desktop). I haven't been able to get anyone I know to give up their webmail accounts, even by offering them free hosting and vanity addresses on my mail server.

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      @JustinDerrick Those are definitely many steps too far! I merely suggested using Signal at a small non-profit where I volunteer, and I could see the eye rolls at me.

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      • cawguy@mstdn.caC cawguy@mstdn.ca

        @JustinDerrick Those are definitely many steps too far! I merely suggested using Signal at a small non-profit where I volunteer, and I could see the eye rolls at me.

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        @CAWguy Yeah, many years ago, I presented info about Signal to a nearby non-profit. Their President still sends stuff through SMS, even after having made it a requirement for their entire team to start using Signal.

        The inertia of bad habits is very difficult to overcome.

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        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

          I'm just a girl, incrementing the counter on the number of times I have been sent a plaintext email from a Protonmail user telling me that the message is encrypted.

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          @evacide rot26-encrypted

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          • futureisfoss@fosstodon.orgF futureisfoss@fosstodon.org

            @jjacobsson @evacide

            "Military grade encryption" is another one 😂 Actually anything "military-grade" is almost always used as a marketing term, not just in tech products.

            Personally I always try to use noncommercial alternatives where I can, like Mastodon for example. It's so much saner when they're not trying to sell you something, like the listings here - https://www.directory.trade-free.org

            And people should donate to these good projects to support them.

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            @futureisfoss @jjacobsson @evacide A friend is in the US navy and told me "military grade" means "outdated, hard to use, developed by the lowest bidder contractor".

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            • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

              I'm just a girl, incrementing the counter on the number of times I have been sent a plaintext email from a Protonmail user telling me that the message is encrypted.

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              @evacide This message reaches you encrypted with the devilish rot0 algorithm.

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              • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                I'm just a girl, incrementing the counter on the number of times I have been sent a plaintext email from a Protonmail user telling me that the message is encrypted.

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                @evacide @zarchasmpgmr if we all believe hard enough maybe it will come true

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                • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                  I'm just a girl, incrementing the counter on the number of times I have been sent a plaintext email from a Protonmail user telling me that the message is encrypted.

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                  @evacide Be a large pile of nickels by now, huh?

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                    @riverpunk

                    Same problem with Tuta.

                    for email, I pretty much settle for 'not automatically surveilled', and use something else if it needs to be better than that.

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                      @riverpunk You have come to the correct conclusion, yes. In the meantime, I do need to come up with suggestions for what people should do about sensitive email and I have to cut through a lot of misleading advertising claims in order to do it.

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