I'm just a girl, incrementing the counter on the number of times I have been sent a plaintext email from a Protonmail user telling me that the message is encrypted.

[kboyd@phpc.social]

@evacide "This is not a place of honour. Nothing important is encrypted here."

[futureisfoss@fosstodon.org]

@evacide

Do you think Proton's marketing is a bit confusing here? They keep saying their emails are encrypted, I assume what they mean is that they keep the info encrypted on their server. And maybe they also use end-to-end encryption if both the sender and recipient are using Protonmail - tho I'm not really sure about this one so correct me if I'm wrong.

[kate@social.treehouse.systems]

@evacide their marketing is so annoying, wrong and dangerous "EnCrYpTeD eMaIl SeRvIcE"

[nemo@mas.to]

@evacide 1st signal/ better Molly(signal fork) and then delta chat for the win.

https://signal-contingency-plan.info/
https://blog.feld.me/posts/2025/03/deltachat-is-actually-good-though/

luckily end of this year autocrypt v2 will be implemented https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/TV7GCC-autocrypt_2_post-quantum-cryptography_and_reliable_deletion_forward-secrecy/

[addison@nothing-ever.works]

@evacide@hachyderm.io funnily enough, I often have the opposite problem

[evacide@hachyderm.io]

@futureisfoss Correct. Most people do not understand the difference between E2EE and TLS encryption.

[lukephilipps@swiss.social]

@evacide
I know that all too well. For example, pharmacies that say, "You can send it to me by email. We have a secure address!"

[9pfs@tilde.zone]

@LukePhilipps @evacide are there providers that force transport encryption at least when talking to their systems? (ofc that isn't good enough, but still)

[jjacobsson@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@evacide @futureisfoss to be fair to most people, we in tech really suck at explaining how things work. And in many fields we are actively spreading miss-information in order to sell products.

[sidogof@mastodon.social]

@evacide Proton with their marketing did insane damage to privacy community (not only in email). But at least you can reply to those with actual E2EE thanks to WKD and Proton using PGP and uploading user public keys to key discovery servers.

[futureisfoss@fosstodon.org]

@jjacobsson @evacide

"Military grade encryption" is another one Actually anything "military-grade" is almost always used as a marketing term, not just in tech products.

Personally I always try to use noncommercial alternatives where I can, like Mastodon for example. It's so much saner when they're not trying to sell you something, like the listings here - https://www.directory.trade-free.org

And people should donate to these good projects to support them.

[lovestha@floss.social]

@futureisfoss @jjacobsson @evacide you mean my F15 lacrosse pole was not really the same titanium used in fighter planes? Maybe that is why they exploded on contact....

[mattb@hachyderm.io]

@sidogof @evacide 2026 is the year of PGP email, I'm sure of it. This time it's a winner.

[mangochutney@social.lol]

@evacide

[gruff@stroud.social]

@evacide
The e-mail is stating the belief of the user or some message appended by the provider?

[sidogof@mastodon.social]

@mattb @evacide What this has to do with anything? Yes, PGP kinda sucks, GPG is a bad piece of software. So what? There’s not much else to use in e-mail (if you want E2EE).

[roadskater@mastodon.social]

@LovesTha @futureisfoss @jjacobsson @evacide That must have been awkward during your lacrosse matches. Did you get penalized when it happened?

[annehargreaves@ioc.exchange]

@evacide haha yes

[ada@beige.party]

@evacide
We probably have to ditch email altogether instead of raising awareness.

And sorry didn't boost your post. Even in here I believe there are still a lot of people who won't get your joke.

[9pfs@tilde.zone]

@LovesTha @futureisfoss @jjacobsson @evacide @roadskater I would imagine that the structural loads a fighter jet needs to survive and those a sports tool need to survive are quite different /silly