I've been physically destroying several old hard drives and prepping a pile of old electronics for recycling.
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I've been physically destroying several old hard drives and prepping a pile of old electronics for recycling. The HDD in this old acer palmtop was too hard to get out. I couldn't even figure it out. So I found this very old software to supposedly wipe it. It's fine, I only ever used this thing to tinker with Arduino anyway.
@Nonya_Bidniss What comes around... I just ordered an HP palmtop off ebay this afternoon.
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I've been physically destroying several old hard drives and prepping a pile of old electronics for recycling. The HDD in this old acer palmtop was too hard to get out. I couldn't even figure it out. So I found this very old software to supposedly wipe it. It's fine, I only ever used this thing to tinker with Arduino anyway.
It has (had) Win XP on it
Note the tiny piece of sticky note covering up the camera, yeah I do that. Too many years in the IC -
I've been physically destroying several old hard drives and prepping a pile of old electronics for recycling. The HDD in this old acer palmtop was too hard to get out. I couldn't even figure it out. So I found this very old software to supposedly wipe it. It's fine, I only ever used this thing to tinker with Arduino anyway.
@Nonya_Bidniss I had one of those, it's a nightmare to get the drive out. Keeb has 3 clips that need basically thin guitar picks before it will pop out, then ~10 screws under that, and all the screws on the bottom of the clamshell, plus the four under the rubber feet, and the top part of the clamshell is also held in by clips (guitar pick around the outside). At least an hour of work.
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I've been physically destroying several old hard drives and prepping a pile of old electronics for recycling. The HDD in this old acer palmtop was too hard to get out. I couldn't even figure it out. So I found this very old software to supposedly wipe it. It's fine, I only ever used this thing to tinker with Arduino anyway.
@Nonya_Bidniss DBAN 🫡
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@Nonya_Bidniss I had one of those, it's a nightmare to get the drive out. Keeb has 3 clips that need basically thin guitar picks before it will pop out, then ~10 screws under that, and all the screws on the bottom of the clamshell, plus the four under the rubber feet, and the top part of the clamshell is also held in by clips (guitar pick around the outside). At least an hour of work.
@ghostsarespooky "under" the rubber feet? Jesus that must have been it. I did all the other stuff.
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I've been physically destroying several old hard drives and prepping a pile of old electronics for recycling. The HDD in this old acer palmtop was too hard to get out. I couldn't even figure it out. So I found this very old software to supposedly wipe it. It's fine, I only ever used this thing to tinker with Arduino anyway.
@Nonya_Bidniss Awwwww. I had an Aspire 1 ... I miss that machine.
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@Nonya_Bidniss Awwwww. I had an Aspire 1 ... I miss that machine.
@Nonya_Bidniss It was like the bestest travel machine ever. Under RAMed at 4GB and had a Celeron Proc but worked GREAT as far as SSH/MOSH and that's all I really need in a hurry.
I upgraded the RAM in a bar with a nail file (screwdriver) having an IPA as I recall.
I had a 15" Sony VAIO (punk fuckers running Linux, VAIO bastards) as my primary carry and my mother bought me the Aspire because she thought it was "cute". That boxen became my primary walking around Los Angeles. It was perfect.
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@Nonya_Bidniss It was like the bestest travel machine ever. Under RAMed at 4GB and had a Celeron Proc but worked GREAT as far as SSH/MOSH and that's all I really need in a hurry.
I upgraded the RAM in a bar with a nail file (screwdriver) having an IPA as I recall.
I had a 15" Sony VAIO (punk fuckers running Linux, VAIO bastards) as my primary carry and my mother bought me the Aspire because she thought it was "cute". That boxen became my primary walking around Los Angeles. It was perfect.
@elfin It was nice. I had the big Vaio too back then.
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@elfin It was nice. I had the big Vaio too back then.
@Nonya_Bidniss Fucking VAIOs (ThinkPad guy, for, reasons) I had to recompile my effing audio drivers ever kernel update.
SONY is Specifically antagonistic to xnix. Sexy little beasts, but more trouble than worth. [Looked great in meetings, but I can beat a marketing guy with a ThinkPad and still use it later that day, VAIO not so much).
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@ghostsarespooky "under" the rubber feet? Jesus that must have been it. I did all the other stuff.
@Nonya_Bidniss Yep. Turns out I still have this thing, and I've swapped memory and disk on this thing so much the feet no longer stick. Just the rear two, not the four like I had initially mentioned.
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@Nonya_Bidniss Yep. Turns out I still have this thing, and I've swapped memory and disk on this thing so much the feet no longer stick. Just the rear two, not the four like I had initially mentioned.
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I've been physically destroying several old hard drives and prepping a pile of old electronics for recycling. The HDD in this old acer palmtop was too hard to get out. I couldn't even figure it out. So I found this very old software to supposedly wipe it. It's fine, I only ever used this thing to tinker with Arduino anyway.
@Nonya_Bidniss old HDDs are actually securely erasable, unlike SSDs where it's rather a "Trust me Bro!" kinda thing.
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@Nonya_Bidniss old HDDs are actually securely erasable, unlike SSDs where it's rather a "Trust me Bro!" kinda thing.
Old HDDs are not be securely erased unless you do it like US navy erased them.
Dip them in acid
Some drive tracks can be read on the "outside".
By state actors mainly.However, both HDD and SSDs can be permanently erased in a microwave
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Old HDDs are not be securely erased unless you do it like US navy erased them.
Dip them in acid
Some drive tracks can be read on the "outside".
By state actors mainly.However, both HDD and SSDs can be permanently erased in a microwave
@n_dimension @kkarhan @Nonya_Bidniss there are scripts that nuke the whole OS and Kernel and DD, just 1 script to run on the pc .
Mr Robot used the chip for a microwave and pierced a hole in the HDD, in the movie whoami they used acid indeed with a mask on.
But just 1 script and you can overwrite the hdd or SDD or/and nuke the whole OS> I wish them good luck with that recovering anything. -
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@n_dimension @kkarhan @Nonya_Bidniss there are scripts that nuke the whole OS and Kernel and DD, just 1 script to run on the pc .
Mr Robot used the chip for a microwave and pierced a hole in the HDD, in the movie whoami they used acid indeed with a mask on.
But just 1 script and you can overwrite the hdd or SDD or/and nuke the whole OS> I wish them good luck with that recovering anything.@zer0unplanned @Nonya_Bidniss @n_dimension there are tools like
shredthat do the repeat overwrites with random data, 0s & 1s.- Just iterate over your physical drives and you should be good
- That does work fine, and is kinda essential with shitty hosters [i.e. Hetzner] that tend to not even replace/delete the vHDD of their VPSes after customers cancel them.
- Just iterate over your physical drives and you should be good
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@zer0unplanned @Nonya_Bidniss @n_dimension there are tools like
shredthat do the repeat overwrites with random data, 0s & 1s.- Just iterate over your physical drives and you should be good
- That does work fine, and is kinda essential with shitty hosters [i.e. Hetzner] that tend to not even replace/delete the vHDD of their VPSes after customers cancel them.
@zer0unplanned @Nonya_Bidniss @n_dimension OFC physically destroying the drives among dozens if not hundreds of identical ones with a physical shredder is also an option, but neither cheap nor fast.
- But in many cases that is the mandated way to do things to ease off lawyers and in any decent organization CISO & CLO will approve of it if they didn't mandate it already…
- Just iterate over your physical drives and you should be good
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@zer0unplanned @Nonya_Bidniss @n_dimension there are tools like
shredthat do the repeat overwrites with random data, 0s & 1s.- Just iterate over your physical drives and you should be good
- That does work fine, and is kinda essential with shitty hosters [i.e. Hetzner] that tend to not even replace/delete the vHDD of their VPSes after customers cancel them.
- Just iterate over your physical drives and you should be good
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@zer0unplanned @Nonya_Bidniss @n_dimension OFC physically destroying the drives among dozens if not hundreds of identical ones with a physical shredder is also an option, but neither cheap nor fast.
- But in many cases that is the mandated way to do things to ease off lawyers and in any decent organization CISO & CLO will approve of it if they didn't mandate it already…
@kkarhan @n_dimension @Nonya_Bidniss No it is slow by design , I copied once the nuke OS of Kodachi OS which is Debian as the scripts are all viewable and copy pasta'able and made an usb with a universal script to nuke any machine once plugged in -
@kkarhan @n_dimension @Nonya_Bidniss No it is slow by design , I copied once the nuke OS of Kodachi OS which is Debian as the scripts are all viewable and copy pasta'able and made an usb with a universal script to nuke any machine once plugged in
@zer0unplanned @Nonya_Bidniss @n_dimension yeah, I do want to do something similar with @OS1337 but a bit more precise, aiming fir #LUKS headers first so it'll take literally seconds to make it already non-recoverable.
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@zer0unplanned @Nonya_Bidniss @n_dimension yeah, I do want to do something similar with @OS1337 but a bit more precise, aiming fir #LUKS headers first so it'll take literally seconds to make it already non-recoverable.
@kkarhan @n_dimension @OS1337 @Nonya_Bidniss That is a harder nut, but if you realy want you can even beat up LUKS while I still ask why? that LUKS would be just a key to read overwritten data.
The aim is the data not the external defences.
