Name a better combination than tmux and vim.
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Name a better combination than tmux and vim.
Go on, I'll wait.
(No, emacs does not count)
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Name a better combination than tmux and vim.
Go on, I'll wait.
(No, emacs does not count)
Since the days of twm I'll admit that I've struggled with (and largely given up on) getting a consistent, hot-key friendly way of navigating the layers of interaction. I've never been able to give up on my "card file"/"messy desk" approach to windows (I never minimize, keeping at least a corner visible to remind my brain they are there).
My aversion to tmux (well, TBH, screen, mostly) tended to be due to hot-keys getting trapped by something in the WM->Window->Tab->Sub-Win/tmux->Editor/whatever chain before getting to the Editor, and that trap annoying me. It was an extra layer in an already complicated interaction.
We never really got a rule, or a keyboard with Meta-type keys, explicitly for actions at (using KDE's Plasma model) Activity -> Virtual Desk -> Desktop -> Window -> Window Tab -> Application levels. Alt does tend to address the first couple of levels, Ctrl the last couple, but it's never consistent.
Not sure I want 5 levels of Meta key, either...
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Since the days of twm I'll admit that I've struggled with (and largely given up on) getting a consistent, hot-key friendly way of navigating the layers of interaction. I've never been able to give up on my "card file"/"messy desk" approach to windows (I never minimize, keeping at least a corner visible to remind my brain they are there).
My aversion to tmux (well, TBH, screen, mostly) tended to be due to hot-keys getting trapped by something in the WM->Window->Tab->Sub-Win/tmux->Editor/whatever chain before getting to the Editor, and that trap annoying me. It was an extra layer in an already complicated interaction.
We never really got a rule, or a keyboard with Meta-type keys, explicitly for actions at (using KDE's Plasma model) Activity -> Virtual Desk -> Desktop -> Window -> Window Tab -> Application levels. Alt does tend to address the first couple of levels, Ctrl the last couple, but it's never consistent.
Not sure I want 5 levels of Meta key, either...
I agree that a consistent approach to terminals, shell, editing and multiplexing would be great. The joys of a system designed in the stone age of computers...
Let's just say tmux+vim is the least bad solution for me right now.
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I agree that a consistent approach to terminals, shell, editing and multiplexing would be great. The joys of a system designed in the stone age of computers...
Let's just say tmux+vim is the least bad solution for me right now.
@ParadeGrotesque It ain't the computer interaction designs that are stone age.
Last I checked, current science suggests humans may have been a bit smarter during the stone age. 🤨
(I actually like the old patterns: they don't try to cover up what you're dealing with. The user has to learn to speak a language that is computer friendly, rather than having a computer try to deal with whatever mess is between the ears of the random creature currently bashing on the inputs.)
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Name a better combination than tmux and vim.
Go on, I'll wait.
(No, emacs does not count)
@ParadeGrotesque the wat you immediately disqualify emacs makes me feel that you know it'd easily best any other multiplexing system
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@ParadeGrotesque the wat you immediately disqualify emacs makes me feel that you know it'd easily best any other multiplexing system
Emacs is a fine operating system, it's a shame it does not have a good editor.
Like vim.
(I know, it's a classic, but, let's face it, you asked for it)
(Also: found the emacs user!)
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Emacs is a fine operating system, it's a shame it does not have a good editor.
Like vim.
(I know, it's a classic, but, let's face it, you asked for it)
(Also: found the emacs user!)
