Apple is preparing to fold the iPhone — whether or not anyone asked for it.
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@kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis
That’s an excuse, at best. My dad is still using my iPhone 12 from five years ago quite happily. The only reason I upgraded from it was that they switched to USB-C two years ago.@gareth @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis I have adaptors for lightning , C and A plus mini and micro.
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@gareth @peteriskrisjanis Amazing. I think that's an exception. But does he use it much, I suspect not.
@kibcol1049 @gareth @peteriskrisjanis My iPhone 11 in use every day .works well
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@gareth @scrummy @Reddog @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis I went iPhone 4, 5S, SE, SE₂ and forced into a 12 pro having run out of money.
@cachondo @gareth @scrummy @Reddog @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis
I used an iphone 3gs which I had since 2009 until last week. Home button is defect now, so I now put an iPhone 7 into operation, which I had in reserve since 2020, when my dad bought himself a new one.
But I dont do any internet with the phone. its only for calls, sms, photos, clock.
So no need for me to waste money and resources (I know there are cheap phones out there, but they still cost money.) -
@cachondo @gareth @scrummy @Reddog @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis
I used an iphone 3gs which I had since 2009 until last week. Home button is defect now, so I now put an iPhone 7 into operation, which I had in reserve since 2020, when my dad bought himself a new one.
But I dont do any internet with the phone. its only for calls, sms, photos, clock.
So no need for me to waste money and resources (I know there are cheap phones out there, but they still cost money.)@catflyhigh @cachondo @scrummy @Reddog @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis
That’s honestly impressive. I thought a lot of countries were shutting down 3G.All my arguments about why that’s a terrible idea fall apart if you don’t do anything on the Internet with it, so good on you for keeping tech going for that long!
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Apple is preparing to fold the iPhone — whether or not anyone asked for it. According to Bloomberg’s Mark Gurman, the device will open into an iPad mini–sized screen and pair luxe hardware with a sleeker design meant to make foldables feel stylish.
If it lands, it could amount to Apple’s most significant iPhone redesign in years — but is that enough to make you part with a fresh $2K (approx £1500)?@kibcol1049 Definitely won't be hiding that, while walking down the sidewalk, into a light pole.
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@gareth @scrummy @Reddog @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis I went iPhone 4, 5S, SE, SE₂ and forced into a 12 pro having run out of money.
@cachondo @gareth @scrummy @Reddog @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis I have a 3 year or so cycle where I buy the latest phone, keep it for 3-4 years, then give it to Mum after buying latest model again. We did well last time round with the iPhone 11, I had it for 4 years and now Mum has had it for 3 years, always running latest iOS. I don't think it will get the new iOS though so decisions will need making end of the year.
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@peteriskrisjanis I've never owned an i-phone. A friend loves them but has to keep buying a new one every year as the built in obsoletion kicks in. Despite the fact that he only uses the main features which are now available for a quarter of the price in android phones. Still -he's happy, poorer but happy! 🤭
I started with iphones, not knowing what they were, and iphones were walled garden enough to make mistakes and not crash the device. then when I truly understood how they function I ditched them. a computer is a computer and this includes smart phones. paying 4 times the price for a thing does the same things as other things under a different brand is beyond dumb. all apple users are in an abusive relationship (the company abusing the gullibility of the users)
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@kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis
Look, I’m not judging. If someone wants to spend their own money on a new shiny toy every year, that’s their business. I wouldn’t, but if he’s doing that and is happy, fair enough.I just object to the excuses. If his phone is genuinely slowing down, he should try hard resetting it and testing it after installing a portion of his usual apps. Maybe one of them is misbehaving. Maybe he’s buying one with not enough storage for his needs and he’s filled it completely. But no major phone manufacturer would build in “planned obsolescence” on a year old device. Apart from being illegal, if they got caught (which let’s face it, they would!), it would destroy their reputation. There have been individual incidents with various companies over the years, and they’ve been publicised and crucified for them.
@gareth @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis
apple has been screwing their users for decades now and it has not affected their bottom line. examples include purposefully degrading battery life through programming, removing the 3.5 mm plug forcing users to buy $300 ear buds (that fall out of ears at the drop of a hat), a stylus that costs hundreds of dollars, and partnering with a company that drives their workers to suicide to the point nets had to be installed around the building. come the fuck on.
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@gareth @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis
apple has been screwing their users for decades now and it has not affected their bottom line. examples include purposefully degrading battery life through programming, removing the 3.5 mm plug forcing users to buy $300 ear buds (that fall out of ears at the drop of a hat), a stylus that costs hundreds of dollars, and partnering with a company that drives their workers to suicide to the point nets had to be installed around the building. come the fuck on.
@coolcalmcollected @gareth @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis had to do a small site inspection job for some light columns on their campus some years back. can confirm they are also a terrible client.
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@gareth @peteriskrisjanis Amazing. I think that's an exception. But does he use it much, I suspect not.
@kibcol1049 @gareth @peteriskrisjanis This hasn’t been my experience at all. I’m on my 3rd iPhone, my first being the iPhone 6, then 11 and now 16. I have kept all of my iPhones for 5 years and have never upgraded because they stopped working or slowed down. I just feel like 5yrs is good enough value for me. At five years, reduced battery life is beginning to feel noticeable and enough improvements have been made for me to justify the upgrade.
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@kibcol1049 @gareth @peteriskrisjanis This hasn’t been my experience at all. I’m on my 3rd iPhone, my first being the iPhone 6, then 11 and now 16. I have kept all of my iPhones for 5 years and have never upgraded because they stopped working or slowed down. I just feel like 5yrs is good enough value for me. At five years, reduced battery life is beginning to feel noticeable and enough improvements have been made for me to justify the upgrade.
@moelassus @gareth @peteriskrisjanis That's good. It's seems some have issues and some don't. It's the price which puts me off. Apple have in the past settled out of court for stealing technology from Android and vice versa. The net effect is I can get everything I want in a Samsung Android that costs a lot less than the i-phone and just as reliable.
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@gareth @peteriskrisjanis Amazing. I think that's an exception. But does he use it much, I suspect not.
@kibcol1049 @gareth @peteriskrisjanis
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@moelassus @gareth @peteriskrisjanis That's good. It's seems some have issues and some don't. It's the price which puts me off. Apple have in the past settled out of court for stealing technology from Android and vice versa. The net effect is I can get everything I want in a Samsung Android that costs a lot less than the i-phone and just as reliable.
@kibcol1049 @gareth @peteriskrisjanis Choice and competition is good.
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@kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis
That’s an excuse, at best. My dad is still using my iPhone 12 from five years ago quite happily. The only reason I upgraded from it was that they switched to USB-C two years ago.@gareth @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis I’m happily using an iPhone SE from early 2021, the only issue for me is the battery life of approx 12 hours now!
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@gareth @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis I’m happily using an iPhone SE from early 2021, the only issue for me is the battery life of approx 12 hours now!
@oftencalledcathy @gareth @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis IPhone 11 here. Lasts most of the day. But recharges in the car when out
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@oftencalledcathy @gareth @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis IPhone 11 here. Lasts most of the day. But recharges in the car when out
@kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis @gareth @John_Loader I do the same
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@peteriskrisjanis I've never owned an i-phone. A friend loves them but has to keep buying a new one every year as the built in obsoletion kicks in. Despite the fact that he only uses the main features which are now available for a quarter of the price in android phones. Still -he's happy, poorer but happy! 🤭
@kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis Built-in obsolesce is in the human. I used a 4s until two years ago, when 3G got turned off. No one needs a new phone every year. That's either having a lot of extra money or a phone plan that keeps customers updated with new phones, or really into FMO, addicted to new tech.
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@gareth @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis I’m happily using an iPhone SE from early 2021, the only issue for me is the battery life of approx 12 hours now!
@oftencalledcathy You might be able to have the battery replaced. If not by Apple, then by shops specializing in out-of-warranty repairs. @gareth @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis
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@oftencalledcathy You might be able to have the battery replaced. If not by Apple, then by shops specializing in out-of-warranty repairs. @gareth @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis
@CStamp @gareth @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis yeah I saw that, but is it worth it if security updates stop at year 7

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@CStamp @gareth @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis yeah I saw that, but is it worth it if security updates stop at year 7

@oftencalledcathy If you are still using the phone, it keeps it more functional. @gareth @kibcol1049 @peteriskrisjanis