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  3. There is something joyful, and perhaps slightly rebellious, about taking old hardware and giving it a renewed purpose today.

There is something joyful, and perhaps slightly rebellious, about taking old hardware and giving it a renewed purpose today.

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  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

    There is something joyful, and perhaps slightly rebellious, about taking old hardware and giving it a renewed purpose today.

    It is somewhat frustrating that this is not the norm, and that so many things are built to be disposable, or are treated as disposable, within such a short time frame.

    The constant push to sell people a new thing is wildly unhelpful.

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    @neil I am tremendously enjoying using an eleven year old MacBook Air 11.6 inch as a video player/email device when I travel. It’s light, functional and when the battery wears out it is easy to replace. It also only cost me £50.

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      @neil I am tremendously enjoying using an eleven year old MacBook Air 11.6 inch as a video player/email device when I travel. It’s light, functional and when the battery wears out it is easy to replace. It also only cost me £50.

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      @davidbcohen Excellent!

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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

        @openrisk Yes, that could be fun!

        There is also merit in less novel, indeed totally routine, re-use - that a laptop is not dead because Microsoft chose not to let it run Windows 11, for instance, or that a repair might be as achievable as replacing a fuse or a battery.

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        @neil ever since Moore's (ever faster) law has sort of stopped for the Intel/AMD CPU's (almost a decade now) it means that old laptops and desktops are not deprecating anywhere near as fast as they did before. With replaceable parts they could live long lives and running Linux means both stability and no artificial obsolescence (though support of drivers for very old hardware starts becoming an issue).

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        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

          @astar_7 @smsm1 Mismatched incentives 😞

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          @neil @astar_7 my understanding is that the energy efficiency improvement of refrigeration is minimal compared to say the shift from incandescent to LED light bulbs at the household level. You might save 30W with the refrigeration. Saving more than that per bulb.

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          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

            There is something joyful, and perhaps slightly rebellious, about taking old hardware and giving it a renewed purpose today.

            It is somewhat frustrating that this is not the norm, and that so many things are built to be disposable, or are treated as disposable, within such a short time frame.

            The constant push to sell people a new thing is wildly unhelpful.

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            @neil yes, it's such a good feeling 🤩💚

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            • smsm1@mastodon.greenS smsm1@mastodon.green

              @neil @astar_7 my understanding is that the energy efficiency improvement of refrigeration is minimal compared to say the shift from incandescent to LED light bulbs at the household level. You might save 30W with the refrigeration. Saving more than that per bulb.

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              @smsm1 @neil @astar_7 Energy consumption for home refrigeration has about halved in the last decade or so, and old fridges and freezers can be huge energy hogs* (eg if they leak their refrigerant) that can be well worth taking out of service and recycling properly.

              *If you have access to a power meter and your device is >>10Y old, check.

              **FWIW, I help run a a Repair Café and keep running most of my stuff well beyond when it's fashionable.

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                There is something joyful, and perhaps slightly rebellious, about taking old hardware and giving it a renewed purpose today.

                It is somewhat frustrating that this is not the norm, and that so many things are built to be disposable, or are treated as disposable, within such a short time frame.

                The constant push to sell people a new thing is wildly unhelpful.

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                @neil Im actually excited to install a windows xp theme on my windows 7 in an old laptop and make it vintage 😂
                Also there are a lot of fun old games and im gonna start a collection!

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                • S seealdaeoh@cupoftea.social

                  @neil And repairs are not made easier by the fact that we now contend with surface mount electrical components instead of thumb size capacitors and valves (though I accept the valve voltages meant more care had to be taken ...). Dad kept a box of desoldered components for spares, and new ones could be had from an independent 'electrical' shop' in the high street which had boxes of stuff.

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                  @neil Plus to get into an appliance we now need hex, torx, star, phillips etc., tools - or we must somehow get two bits of plastic apart without cracking them or breaking the tabs that lock them together.

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                  • S seealdaeoh@cupoftea.social

                    @neil Plus to get into an appliance we now need hex, torx, star, phillips etc., tools - or we must somehow get two bits of plastic apart without cracking them or breaking the tabs that lock them together.

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                    @SeEaldaEoh Yes, that is a real shame too.

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                    • damonhd@mastodon.socialD damonhd@mastodon.social

                      @smsm1 @neil @astar_7 Energy consumption for home refrigeration has about halved in the last decade or so, and old fridges and freezers can be huge energy hogs* (eg if they leak their refrigerant) that can be well worth taking out of service and recycling properly.

                      *If you have access to a power meter and your device is >>10Y old, check.

                      **FWIW, I help run a a Repair Café and keep running most of my stuff well beyond when it's fashionable.

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                      @DamonHD @neil @astar_7 unfortunately I didn't get the power monitor for my fridge before I replaced it so don't have the data for the old one other than a couple of days. Main reason for replacing was that it couldn't keep the temperature low enough so food was going off. Less wasted food is also a good thing.

                      I have the data for the cheap freezer the previous owner put in.

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