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  3. I have a particular fondness for Hungary because I spent a formative time studying there.

I have a particular fondness for Hungary because I spent a formative time studying there.

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  • shriramk@mastodon.socialS shriramk@mastodon.social

    @t0yv0 Yep, CEU was a very neat project, and I thought it was cool that such a place existed. But clearly had no room in an "illiberal democracy". It could have turned into one of Soros's great gifts to his country of birth, but I guess they didn't want it. )-:

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    @t0yv0 CEU was still in Budapest when I visited in 2014 or so (though I visited a tech company, not the university), but already Jobbik signs were prevalent and I wondered how long they would last there. Not much longer, it turned out. )-:

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    • shriramk@mastodon.socialS shriramk@mastodon.social

      And finally, Paul Erdos (Erdős Pál) visited us and gave a talk, and kindly posed for photos. I was much better with a camera than my roommate, so he got the in-focus snap. (-: Unfortunately, this proximity did not make me any smarter, so here I am.

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      @shriramk I didn't know you did Budapest Semesters! What an experience

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      • shriramk@mastodon.socialS shriramk@mastodon.social

        So I suspect it's not easy for many outsiders to understand Hungary. You have to view it both through the lens of its 1100 yr history, including long periods of non-independence, and through its linguistic isolation from its neighbors. And what it did under Nazis, and what was done to it by Soviets. ↵

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        @shriramk it reminds me of the title of a history of Hungary I read, I think the subtitle was something like "1000 years of victory in defeat"

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        • shriramk@mastodon.socialS shriramk@mastodon.social

          And finally, Paul Erdos (Erdős Pál) visited us and gave a talk, and kindly posed for photos. I was much better with a camera than my roommate, so he got the in-focus snap. (-: Unfortunately, this proximity did not make me any smarter, so here I am.

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          @shriramk damn that's a small number. And you simultaneously improved mine. Thank you for the reveal.

          Hey @SteveBellovin and @mattblaze and @peterhoneyman your Erdos number may have just improved in my measurable universe

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          • cigitalgem@sigmoid.socialC cigitalgem@sigmoid.social

            @shriramk damn that's a small number. And you simultaneously improved mine. Thank you for the reveal.

            Hey @SteveBellovin and @mattblaze and @peterhoneyman your Erdos number may have just improved in my measurable universe

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            @cigitalgem @shriramk @mattblaze @peterhoneyman I didn't think I'd co-authored anything with you. That said, @mattblaze and I have an Erdős number of 2, since we've co-authored stuff with Ron Rivest, who's a 1.

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            • stevebellovin@infosec.exchangeS stevebellovin@infosec.exchange

              @cigitalgem @shriramk @mattblaze @peterhoneyman I didn't think I'd co-authored anything with you. That said, @mattblaze and I have an Erdős number of 2, since we've co-authored stuff with Ron Rivest, who's a 1.

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              @SteveBellovin @cigitalgem @shriramk @mattblaze

              i'm stuck at 3 by way of richard ladner and mihalis yannakakis

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                @SteveBellovin @cigitalgem @shriramk @mattblaze

                i'm stuck at 3 by way of richard ladner and mihalis yannakakis

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                @peterhoneyman @cigitalgem @shriramk @mattblaze And me!

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                • stevebellovin@infosec.exchangeS stevebellovin@infosec.exchange

                  @peterhoneyman @cigitalgem @shriramk @mattblaze And me!

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                  @SteveBellovin @cigitalgem @shriramk @mattblaze oh ha ha of course!

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                  • j2kun@mathstodon.xyzJ j2kun@mathstodon.xyz

                    @shriramk I didn't know you did Budapest Semesters! What an experience

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                    @j2kun Did you?

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                    • cigitalgem@sigmoid.socialC cigitalgem@sigmoid.social

                      @shriramk damn that's a small number. And you simultaneously improved mine. Thank you for the reveal.

                      Hey @SteveBellovin and @mattblaze and @peterhoneyman your Erdos number may have just improved in my measurable universe

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                      @cigitalgem Good lord, I didn't *write* anything with him! This is as close as I got!

                      But my Erdős number happens to be 3, I think, which happens to also be my Gates (as in Bill Gates) number.

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                      • shriramk@mastodon.socialS shriramk@mastodon.social

                        Also, due to its singular language, Hungary had never been a particularly diverse country. I remember very well how my Jewish friend and brown self would get *stared at, hard* in public places. What I saw in subsequent decades (eg, Jobbik) was a very obvious extension of what I'd experienced. ↵

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                        @shriramk I mean, Hungary was 5% Jewish before WW2. Like elsewhere in Europe, it's not that Hungary was never diverse so much as that it became monocultural through genocide and ethnic cleansings that happened within living memory.

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