Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (Cyborg)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

CIRCLE WITH A DOT

  1. Home
  2. Uncategorized
  3. #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

#Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Uncategorized
deepfakesdigitalforensic
116 Posts 81 Posters 3 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • legendarybassoon@mamot.frL legendarybassoon@mamot.fr

    @grototo @AudeCaussarieu On verrait un autre genre de déformation, pas des trucs au pif comme ça, je dirais ? De toute façon dans le genre de photo montré est rarement prise en grand angle...

    nartagnan@mstdn.frN This user is from outside of this forum
    nartagnan@mstdn.frN This user is from outside of this forum
    nartagnan@mstdn.fr
    wrote last edited by
    #10

    @legendarybassoon @grototo @AudeCaussarieu

    Oui, je suppose ça ferait une forme pas exacte, mais pas random.
    L'images des cubes par exemple, il y aurait de la symétrie, pas juste un des points qui va n'importe où.

    Et j'imagine la gueule des prompts pour dire de se concentrer sur les points de fuite, difficile à décrire en langage "naturel". Avec un peu de chances ça va pas être facile à corriger.

    Y tk@social.apreslanu.itT 2 Replies Last reply
    0
    • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

      #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

      🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

      f4grx@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
      f4grx@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
      f4grx@chaos.social
      wrote last edited by
      #11

      @FabMusacchio beautiful analysis even though I'm still suspicious of lens distortions.

      leah@blahaj.socialL 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • mathieu_@eldritch.cafeM mathieu_@eldritch.cafe

        @AudeCaussarieu
        J'aurais jamais pensé que les points de fuites pouvaient être une façon de vérifier la véracité d'une image. 🤯

        mourioche@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
        mourioche@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
        mourioche@mastodon.social
        wrote last edited by
        #12

        @mathieu_ @AudeCaussarieu
        Ça, ça marchera jusqu'à ce que les IA génératives d'images se mettent à placer les éléments d'une image dans un espace en 3D.

        mathieu_@eldritch.cafeM 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • nartagnan@mstdn.frN nartagnan@mstdn.fr

          @legendarybassoon @grototo @AudeCaussarieu

          Oui, je suppose ça ferait une forme pas exacte, mais pas random.
          L'images des cubes par exemple, il y aurait de la symétrie, pas juste un des points qui va n'importe où.

          Et j'imagine la gueule des prompts pour dire de se concentrer sur les points de fuite, difficile à décrire en langage "naturel". Avec un peu de chances ça va pas être facile à corriger.

          Y This user is from outside of this forum
          Y This user is from outside of this forum
          youen@masto.bike
          wrote last edited by
          #13

          @nartagnan @legendarybassoon @grototo @AudeCaussarieu je suppose qu'on est déjà entré dans une nouvelle guerre "génération de fakes crédibles" vs "détection de fakes", comme on a déjà les crawlers/rate-limiter, pub/ad-blocker, tracker/anti-tracker, etc. 😒

          Donc oui, même si ce n'est pas facile (?), je ne serais pas surpris que les entreprises derrière ces générateurs d'images analysent les techniques de détection et fassent leur possible pour les rendre inopérantes.

          nartagnan@mstdn.frN 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • nartagnan@mstdn.frN nartagnan@mstdn.fr

            @legendarybassoon @grototo @AudeCaussarieu

            Oui, je suppose ça ferait une forme pas exacte, mais pas random.
            L'images des cubes par exemple, il y aurait de la symétrie, pas juste un des points qui va n'importe où.

            Et j'imagine la gueule des prompts pour dire de se concentrer sur les points de fuite, difficile à décrire en langage "naturel". Avec un peu de chances ça va pas être facile à corriger.

            tk@social.apreslanu.itT This user is from outside of this forum
            tk@social.apreslanu.itT This user is from outside of this forum
            tk@social.apreslanu.it
            wrote last edited by
            #14

            @nartagnan l'uncanny valley dans 10 000 ans, si on est encore dans les parages : pourquoi la reconnaissance instinctive des lignes de fuite est devenue un enjeu de sélection naturelle ?

            @legendarybassoon @grototo @AudeCaussarieu

            tk@social.apreslanu.itT 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • Y youen@masto.bike

              @nartagnan @legendarybassoon @grototo @AudeCaussarieu je suppose qu'on est déjà entré dans une nouvelle guerre "génération de fakes crédibles" vs "détection de fakes", comme on a déjà les crawlers/rate-limiter, pub/ad-blocker, tracker/anti-tracker, etc. 😒

              Donc oui, même si ce n'est pas facile (?), je ne serais pas surpris que les entreprises derrière ces générateurs d'images analysent les techniques de détection et fassent leur possible pour les rendre inopérantes.

              nartagnan@mstdn.frN This user is from outside of this forum
              nartagnan@mstdn.frN This user is from outside of this forum
              nartagnan@mstdn.fr
              wrote last edited by
              #15

              @youen @legendarybassoon @grototo @AudeCaussarieu

              Mais ça va coûter.
              Même avec de la détection, s'ils veulent faire comme le claude code, aka "génère, on check, et tant que ça passe pas le check recommence, même si c'est 1000 fois", ça va leur coûter... 1000 fois plus cher.

              Et ils n'auront pas ce luxe encore très longtemps.

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • tk@social.apreslanu.itT tk@social.apreslanu.it

                @nartagnan l'uncanny valley dans 10 000 ans, si on est encore dans les parages : pourquoi la reconnaissance instinctive des lignes de fuite est devenue un enjeu de sélection naturelle ?

                @legendarybassoon @grototo @AudeCaussarieu

                tk@social.apreslanu.itT This user is from outside of this forum
                tk@social.apreslanu.itT This user is from outside of this forum
                tk@social.apreslanu.it
                wrote last edited by
                #16

                @nartagnan en fait, je vois même pas comment intégrer ça au process d'entrainement, sans que cela devienne une machine à gaz, ce qui est déjà le cas however, genre encoder un raytracer

                @legendarybassoon @grototo @AudeCaussarieu

                youen@pouet.spaceY 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

                  #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

                  🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

                  xauriel@mastodon.nzX This user is from outside of this forum
                  xauriel@mastodon.nzX This user is from outside of this forum
                  xauriel@mastodon.nz
                  wrote last edited by
                  #17

                  @FabMusacchio it is really telling that one of the most powerful tools to detect fake images is an artistic tool that any first year art school student knows about

                  martinvermeer@fediscience.orgM 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

                    #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

                    🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

                    ilusenn@corneill.esI This user is from outside of this forum
                    ilusenn@corneill.esI This user is from outside of this forum
                    ilusenn@corneill.es
                    wrote last edited by
                    #18

                    @FabMusacchio Hello! Can I ask where the url shortener sends?

                    jonnyt@mastodon.me.ukJ 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • mourioche@mastodon.socialM mourioche@mastodon.social

                      @mathieu_ @AudeCaussarieu
                      Ça, ça marchera jusqu'à ce que les IA génératives d'images se mettent à placer les éléments d'une image dans un espace en 3D.

                      mathieu_@eldritch.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
                      mathieu_@eldritch.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
                      mathieu_@eldritch.cafe
                      wrote last edited by
                      #19

                      @Mourioche
                      Évidemment, ça me semble temporaire comme erreur.
                      @AudeCaussarieu

                      mourioche@mastodon.socialM 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • ilusenn@corneill.esI ilusenn@corneill.es

                        @FabMusacchio Hello! Can I ask where the url shortener sends?

                        jonnyt@mastodon.me.ukJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        jonnyt@mastodon.me.ukJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        jonnyt@mastodon.me.uk
                        wrote last edited by
                        #20

                        @ilusenn @FabMusacchio It's legit - the website of the scientific journal, Science (they picked scim.ag because it is short for Science magazine).

                        Here's the full URL: https://www.science.org/content/article/deepfakes-are-everywhere-godfather-digital-forensics-fighting-back

                        ilusenn@corneill.esI naturemc@mastodon.onlineN 2 Replies Last reply
                        0
                        • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

                          #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

                          🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

                          jmopp@masto.aiJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          jmopp@masto.aiJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          jmopp@masto.ai
                          wrote last edited by
                          #21

                          @FabMusacchio

                          Link Preview Image
                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • jonnyt@mastodon.me.ukJ jonnyt@mastodon.me.uk

                            @ilusenn @FabMusacchio It's legit - the website of the scientific journal, Science (they picked scim.ag because it is short for Science magazine).

                            Here's the full URL: https://www.science.org/content/article/deepfakes-are-everywhere-godfather-digital-forensics-fighting-back

                            ilusenn@corneill.esI This user is from outside of this forum
                            ilusenn@corneill.esI This user is from outside of this forum
                            ilusenn@corneill.es
                            wrote last edited by
                            #22

                            @JonnyT @FabMusacchio Thank you!
                            I try to keep the habit to ask everytime

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • jonnyt@mastodon.me.ukJ jonnyt@mastodon.me.uk

                              @ilusenn @FabMusacchio It's legit - the website of the scientific journal, Science (they picked scim.ag because it is short for Science magazine).

                              Here's the full URL: https://www.science.org/content/article/deepfakes-are-everywhere-godfather-digital-forensics-fighting-back

                              naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
                              naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
                              naturemc@mastodon.online
                              wrote last edited by
                              #23

                              @JonnyT Thanks! For I never click on URL shorteners ... like many people here. @ilusenn @FabMusacchio

                              jonnyt@mastodon.me.ukJ 1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

                                #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

                                🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

                                deixis9@beige.partyD This user is from outside of this forum
                                deixis9@beige.partyD This user is from outside of this forum
                                deixis9@beige.party
                                wrote last edited by
                                #24

                                @FabMusacchio @spellingmistakescostlives

                                Link Preview Image
                                fuzzy@beige.partyF 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

                                  #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

                                  🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

                                  castrillo@mastodon.onlineC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  castrillo@mastodon.onlineC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  castrillo@mastodon.online
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #25

                                  @FabMusacchio good post 👍

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                    @JonnyT Thanks! For I never click on URL shorteners ... like many people here. @ilusenn @FabMusacchio

                                    jonnyt@mastodon.me.ukJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    jonnyt@mastodon.me.ukJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    jonnyt@mastodon.me.uk
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #26

                                    @NatureMC @ilusenn @FabMusacchio Definitely not a fan either but I am aware of where this one leads (or, at least, should).

                                    xdej@mamot.frX h3mmy@tech.lgbtH 2 Replies Last reply
                                    0
                                    • mathieu_@eldritch.cafeM mathieu_@eldritch.cafe

                                      @Mourioche
                                      Évidemment, ça me semble temporaire comme erreur.
                                      @AudeCaussarieu

                                      mourioche@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      mourioche@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      mourioche@mastodon.social
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #27

                                      @mathieu_ @AudeCaussarieu Je mets ma main au feu que les IA génératives savent déjà le faire, si on leur demande dans le prompt 🙄

                                      On va surement en arriver au même résultat que pour la presse ou la télévision : La confiance dans le média sera lié à la réputation du média et à rien d'autre...

                                      gfadrelle@mamot.frG 1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • f4grx@chaos.socialF f4grx@chaos.social

                                        @FabMusacchio beautiful analysis even though I'm still suspicious of lens distortions.

                                        leah@blahaj.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                                        leah@blahaj.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                                        leah@blahaj.social
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #28

                                        @f4grx @FabMusacchio sun rays are parallel, yet they meet at a point...?

                                        ncrazed@fd00.spaceN leadore@sunny.gardenL 2 Replies Last reply
                                        0
                                        • deixis9@beige.partyD deixis9@beige.party

                                          @FabMusacchio @spellingmistakescostlives

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          fuzzy@beige.partyF This user is from outside of this forum
                                          fuzzy@beige.partyF This user is from outside of this forum
                                          fuzzy@beige.party
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #29

                                          @Deixis9 what's the origin of the image?

                                          Thanks

                                          I see that it's commercialised e.g. <https://lovingsquad.com/product/ai-slop-is-not-art-chatbots-are-not-your-friends-shirt/>, <https://pagtee.com/product/t-shirt/1926944-ai-slop-is-not-art-chatbots-are-not-your-friends-cyborg-painting-flames>, <https://zerevia.com/product/t-shirt/1926944-ai-slop-is-not-art-chatbots-are-not-your-friends-cyborg-painting-flames>, <https://www.spellingmistakescostlives.com/product-page/copy-of-ai-slop-is-not-art-chatbots-are-not-your-friends-sticker>, however there's no real acknowledgement of an original artist; no credit, as far as I can tell.

                                          @FabMusacchio @spellingmistakescostlives

                                          deixis9@beige.partyD spellingmistakescostlives@mastodon.ieS 2 Replies Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • World
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups