Does Elon Musk actually think the vacuum of space is a good cooling solution for an orbital datacenter?
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@gwynnion Without atmosphere to serve as a means of heat removal, that leaves heat removal through infrared radiation or through some kind of evaporation?
The latter seems like a poor choice. So, radiation?
That doesn't sound as efficient as cooling in atmosphere.
@gwynnion And you'd have to keep it in the Earth's shadow? WTF?
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@gwynnion Everything that comes out his mouth is a ploy to get him more money or power. Usually both.
Orbital datacenters are just an attempt to grift the hyperscalers, desperate to grow and flush with money they can't let sit still or the economy shudders. "Give me a few of those billions, and we'll put your GPUs in space. It's cold there!"
The folks actually making decisions in tech rn would *absolutely* fall for this, over the protests of their own engineers.
@valthonis @gwynnion he said his rocket would be on Mars by 2025, it was not...nobody held him to it anyway.
A fraud.
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@gwynnion Please tell me you’re joking
@chartier He also wants them to be solar powered!
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@gwynnion Everything that comes out his mouth is a ploy to get him more money or power. Usually both.
Orbital datacenters are just an attempt to grift the hyperscalers, desperate to grow and flush with money they can't let sit still or the economy shudders. "Give me a few of those billions, and we'll put your GPUs in space. It's cold there!"
The folks actually making decisions in tech rn would *absolutely* fall for this, over the protests of their own engineers.
@valthonis @gwynnion “Ploy” could be understood as giving him too much credit. He’s good at making up things they’ll fall for because he is also that stupid. He’s not the one building any of it or going to take the fall when it doesn’t work, that’s for the little people to clean up, he’s an Idea Man, and he’s Good At Ideas, just look at all money people give him! Not a critical thought to share between them, they’re all selling each other castles in the sky and trusting they can flip them for a profit.
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Does Elon Musk actually think the vacuum of space is a good cooling solution for an orbital datacenter?
Because that would explain a lot about what's wrong with SpaceX, honestly.
@gwynnion look every sci fi show ever has taught us that outer space is like the coldest thing there is
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@gwynnion And you'd have to keep it in the Earth's shadow? WTF?
@timberwraith Radiative heat removal on something that hot and at that scale would require delicate mega-structures of their own as far as I know.
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@gwynnion look every sci fi show ever has taught us that outer space is like the coldest thing there is
@waitworry I know, it's annoying.
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Does Elon Musk actually think the vacuum of space is a good cooling solution for an orbital datacenter?
Because that would explain a lot about what's wrong with SpaceX, honestly.
@gwynnion "Sorry, our servers have experienced a rapid unexpected heat event, rendering them useless"
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@timberwraith Radiative heat removal on something that hot and at that scale would require delicate mega-structures of their own as far as I know.
@gwynnion That sounds rather unwieldy.
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@valthonis @gwynnion “Ploy” could be understood as giving him too much credit. He’s good at making up things they’ll fall for because he is also that stupid. He’s not the one building any of it or going to take the fall when it doesn’t work, that’s for the little people to clean up, he’s an Idea Man, and he’s Good At Ideas, just look at all money people give him! Not a critical thought to share between them, they’re all selling each other castles in the sky and trusting they can flip them for a profit.
@cwicseolfor @valthonis Musk excels at getting other stupid people to pay him to do things that will never happen. It's his entire business model.
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@gwynnion That sounds rather unwieldy.
@timberwraith Kinda. Especially if he wants them to be purely solar powered.
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@timberwraith Kinda. Especially if he wants them to be purely solar powered.
@gwynnion Oh, I can see him wanting to use some variation of nuclear fuel. A fun thing to have flying around overhead, you know.
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@gwynnion Oh, I can see him wanting to use some variation of nuclear fuel. A fun thing to have flying around overhead, you know.
@timberwraith "'Space-based AI is obviously the only way to scale,' Musk wrote on SpaceX’s website Monday, adding about his solar ambitions, 'It’s always sunny in space!'"
Musk vows to put data centers in space and run them on solar power but experts have their doubts
Elon Musk is bringing the same revolutionary thinking that helped him upend the car industry to the data center business with promises this week to put up to a million new satellites in the sky.
AP News (apnews.com)
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@timberwraith "'Space-based AI is obviously the only way to scale,' Musk wrote on SpaceX’s website Monday, adding about his solar ambitions, 'It’s always sunny in space!'"
Musk vows to put data centers in space and run them on solar power but experts have their doubts
Elon Musk is bringing the same revolutionary thinking that helped him upend the car industry to the data center business with promises this week to put up to a million new satellites in the sky.
AP News (apnews.com)
@gwynnion Ah. Well, I wonder how much sky that mess will be taking up.
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@gwynnion Ah. Well, I wonder how much sky that mess will be taking up.
@timberwraith Probably a lot once Kessler Syndrome kicks in.
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@timberwraith Probably a lot once Kessler Syndrome kicks in.
@gwynnion "...trapping heat inside objects in the same way that a Thermos keeps coffee hot using double walls with no air between them."
Yeeah. Being a personal fan of vacuum bottle style thermoses because of how good they are at retaining heat, I've always wondered about how things stay cool in space, LOL.
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