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  • saxnot@chaos.socialS saxnot@chaos.social

    @smallcircles @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn I don't get it

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    @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

    You are right. It is flawed. Happens on the quick-toot modern timeline of our time πŸ™‚

    But this is also emergent design: experiment, test, improve in short cycles.

    Another attempt at platitude then. Then it is up to others to counter-platitude me again πŸ˜„

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    • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

      There exist no other chess players yet. Can they train with others? Will they understand the excitement of a deep philosophical session where the inventor got an inkling of Magnus Carlsen level genius? Probably not.

      Today there are libraries full of chess books. But not then. Should the inventor write all that? He can't. The only way to 'spread' chess about, is for others to experience it with others: social experience. Learn by doing.

      My mistake was that I was encouraging people into *doing*, but my continuous explanation seemed to ask "join me on something very complex and vague". That complex and vague being the reverse engineering of complex social dynamics that exist in the #commons, back to simple building blocks and rules. What an emergent designer does. But not at all what you need to know to participate in SX solutions. Everyone does their own thing.

      The paradox: Concrete SX practice steers intangible emergent value creation, but what you see at a time is just your 2 cents.

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      #ThoughtProvoker πŸ€”

      #ParadoxOfEmergence. The Paradox of Emergence entails that the more intricate an #EmergentDesign gets, the more complex #WickedProblems it can potentially solve.

      However, all the potential power remains dormant, ethereal and invisible, especially to people other than the designer. It can only be properly perceived and valued, either with deep attention and focus on the emergent dynamics of the design. Or by dilligent practice in the field.

      A design may represent a beautiful emergent Golden Dragon of Problem Solving. Waiting in its lair under Wicked Problem mountain for when its time to breathe its Fires of Solution onto mankind. Ready to soar. Yet what most other people and even at times the designer themself perceive is merely a tiny mouse. Thus they are unwilling to add their 2 cents to a Potential they cannot grasp. Unable to see how their support adds to a sizable Dragon's Hoard that has already emerged, lending power to the dragon so it may be unleashed.

      #SX

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      • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

        @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

        You are right. It is flawed. Happens on the quick-toot modern timeline of our time πŸ™‚

        But this is also emergent design: experiment, test, improve in short cycles.

        Another attempt at platitude then. Then it is up to others to counter-platitude me again πŸ˜„

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        @smallcircles

        I see a pin-back button in the works.
        May I?

        @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

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          @smallcircles

          I see a pin-back button in the works.
          May I?

          @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

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          @Algot @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

          You mean a quote post? Sure, by all means πŸ™‚

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          • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

            @Algot @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

            You mean a quote post? Sure, by all means πŸ™‚

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            @smallcircles

            I have a button-making setup. I'd love to make a physical button.

            @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

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            • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

              @Algot @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

              You mean a quote post? Sure, by all means πŸ™‚

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              @smallcircles

              @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

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              • algot@mastodon.artA algot@mastodon.art

                @smallcircles

                @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

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                @Algot @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

                Oh, that is lovely. You can use it public domain CC0 as a quote by me, Arnold Schrijver, assuming that no one before me has formulated it already.

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                • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                  @Algot @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

                  Oh, that is lovely. You can use it public domain CC0 as a quote by me, Arnold Schrijver, assuming that no one before me has formulated it already.

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                  @Algot @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

                  I'm pondering now if I should make "SX platitude" a SX artifact. I likely will.

                  You see, there's a concept of "wisdom tiles" in SX, indicating universal truths that all (or most) people agree on, like "think, before you act". The tile I generated represents a Delft-blue "wisdom tile" and these things used to hang in the toilet in our grandparents house when we were young. You typically gifted them on birthdays of your Grandma. They are now kinda disappearing. It is old-fashioned.

                  The underlying innercircles simple life philosophy that underpins SX goes from the assumption that "simple solutions still exist". And that in terms of wisdom, knowledge, common sense, and life experience *everything* we need to solve the wicked solutions of our time, is already out there. It is the coordinated application in practice during prolonged times where we drop the ball.

                  Wisdom is relative, in the eye of the beholder. "Wisdom tile" best avoided.

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                  • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                    @Algot @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

                    I'm pondering now if I should make "SX platitude" a SX artifact. I likely will.

                    You see, there's a concept of "wisdom tiles" in SX, indicating universal truths that all (or most) people agree on, like "think, before you act". The tile I generated represents a Delft-blue "wisdom tile" and these things used to hang in the toilet in our grandparents house when we were young. You typically gifted them on birthdays of your Grandma. They are now kinda disappearing. It is old-fashioned.

                    The underlying innercircles simple life philosophy that underpins SX goes from the assumption that "simple solutions still exist". And that in terms of wisdom, knowledge, common sense, and life experience *everything* we need to solve the wicked solutions of our time, is already out there. It is the coordinated application in practice during prolonged times where we drop the ball.

                    Wisdom is relative, in the eye of the beholder. "Wisdom tile" best avoided.

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                    @Algot @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

                    With CC0 there's no need for attribution, but if you want to honor me you may quote as:

                    -- "Urgent platitudes" quote by Arnold Schrijver, social coder.

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                    • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                      @khleedril @woozle @Profpatsch @eryn

                      πŸ’― Totally! This is even part of core principles of #SX: Mindfulness.

                      A movement is timeless and can only progress by participants adding their 2 cts, which accrue over time. Or it pauses, waiting for input. The wicked solution is timeless in a similar way, waiting its lifecycle stage where it solves the wicked problem and sustainably satisfies all stakeholders' evolving needs.

                      Urgency is provided by individuals. However, if some group or movement has the attitude "Stop the talking, we MUST act NOW and with URGENCY" they have a humongous failure condition right there.

                      Instead there is prioritised, planned urgency and after breakdown into manageable chunks. It becomes simple then. You talk when you need to talk, and you act when you need to act.

                      It sounds like a platitude, and perhaps it is in how obvious it is. But if you don't act according to the wisdom of the platitude, perhaps it bears repeating it? Platitudes are a form of universal truths.

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                      @smallcircles @khleedril @woozle @eryn That’s just managed coordination, is it not? Maybe we need someone to come up with a plan in the first place.

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