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  • emily@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Anyone else on #iPhone #iOS 26.5 (latest)?

    I found a privacy bug.

    When the phone is locked, I am able to open the camera as usual to take photos, and I found I can also can view and manipulate the camera roll. It was not possible to do this on past versions of iOS.

    This feels like a major privacy and safety issue. Anyone with physical access to a phone can view and delete someone's pictures. Abusers, government, anyone.

    I've reported it, but I'd appreciate boosts to help spread the word. And confirmation, of course, if you see the same thing.

    Editing to clarify: this seems like a sneaky unlock rather than open access to the camera. However, the behavior has changed from what I used to get in past versions of iOS.

    Edit #2: there is a way to require the Photos app (your camera roll) to require Face ID so you don't see this behavior. I believe this should be the default.

    #Privacy #Security #Apple

    tk51688@nrw.socialT bsod@framapiaf.orgB jeremydebose@mstdn.socialJ vito@floof.shV ericm@infosec.exchangeE 16 Replies Last reply
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    • emily@infosec.exchangeE emily@infosec.exchange

      Anyone else on #iPhone #iOS 26.5 (latest)?

      I found a privacy bug.

      When the phone is locked, I am able to open the camera as usual to take photos, and I found I can also can view and manipulate the camera roll. It was not possible to do this on past versions of iOS.

      This feels like a major privacy and safety issue. Anyone with physical access to a phone can view and delete someone's pictures. Abusers, government, anyone.

      I've reported it, but I'd appreciate boosts to help spread the word. And confirmation, of course, if you see the same thing.

      Editing to clarify: this seems like a sneaky unlock rather than open access to the camera. However, the behavior has changed from what I used to get in past versions of iOS.

      Edit #2: there is a way to require the Photos app (your camera roll) to require Face ID so you don't see this behavior. I believe this should be the default.

      #Privacy #Security #Apple

      tk51688@nrw.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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      tk51688@nrw.social
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      #2

      @Emily

      Do you have some more details?
      I cannot reproduce the problem.
      When I hide the front camera to disable Face ID, open the camera and take a photo, I can only see the taken picture.
      My environment is an iPhone 16 with iOS 26.5.

      supersluether@tech.lgbtS emily@infosec.exchangeE 2 Replies Last reply
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      • emily@infosec.exchangeE emily@infosec.exchange

        Anyone else on #iPhone #iOS 26.5 (latest)?

        I found a privacy bug.

        When the phone is locked, I am able to open the camera as usual to take photos, and I found I can also can view and manipulate the camera roll. It was not possible to do this on past versions of iOS.

        This feels like a major privacy and safety issue. Anyone with physical access to a phone can view and delete someone's pictures. Abusers, government, anyone.

        I've reported it, but I'd appreciate boosts to help spread the word. And confirmation, of course, if you see the same thing.

        Editing to clarify: this seems like a sneaky unlock rather than open access to the camera. However, the behavior has changed from what I used to get in past versions of iOS.

        Edit #2: there is a way to require the Photos app (your camera roll) to require Face ID so you don't see this behavior. I believe this should be the default.

        #Privacy #Security #Apple

        bsod@framapiaf.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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        bsod@framapiaf.org
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        @Emily cannot reproduce here, I only have access to the photos I just took with the phone locked, like before 🤔

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        • tk51688@nrw.socialT tk51688@nrw.social

          @Emily

          Do you have some more details?
          I cannot reproduce the problem.
          When I hide the front camera to disable Face ID, open the camera and take a photo, I can only see the taken picture.
          My environment is an iPhone 16 with iOS 26.5.

          supersluether@tech.lgbtS This user is from outside of this forum
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          supersluether@tech.lgbt
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          #4

          @tk51688 @Emily iPhone 15 with iOS 26.5 here, and it works as expected. I only see the full camera roll if FaceID unlocked the phone from the lock screen, otherwise I can only view/delete the pictures/videos taken from the lock screen.

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          • emily@infosec.exchangeE emily@infosec.exchange

            Anyone else on #iPhone #iOS 26.5 (latest)?

            I found a privacy bug.

            When the phone is locked, I am able to open the camera as usual to take photos, and I found I can also can view and manipulate the camera roll. It was not possible to do this on past versions of iOS.

            This feels like a major privacy and safety issue. Anyone with physical access to a phone can view and delete someone's pictures. Abusers, government, anyone.

            I've reported it, but I'd appreciate boosts to help spread the word. And confirmation, of course, if you see the same thing.

            Editing to clarify: this seems like a sneaky unlock rather than open access to the camera. However, the behavior has changed from what I used to get in past versions of iOS.

            Edit #2: there is a way to require the Photos app (your camera roll) to require Face ID so you don't see this behavior. I believe this should be the default.

            #Privacy #Security #Apple

            jeremydebose@mstdn.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            jeremydebose@mstdn.social
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            @Emily I couldn’t replicate.

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            • tk51688@nrw.socialT tk51688@nrw.social

              @Emily

              Do you have some more details?
              I cannot reproduce the problem.
              When I hide the front camera to disable Face ID, open the camera and take a photo, I can only see the taken picture.
              My environment is an iPhone 16 with iOS 26.5.

              emily@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
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              emily@infosec.exchange
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              @tk51688 The thing is that this behavior - viewing photos from before I opened the camera - is a change from past versions of iOS.

              I agree that if I am not in view of the camera, the behavior is the same as I expect. But I've been using this feature for years, with my face visible to the cameras, and I wasn't able to view older photos then.

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              • emily@infosec.exchangeE emily@infosec.exchange

                Anyone else on #iPhone #iOS 26.5 (latest)?

                I found a privacy bug.

                When the phone is locked, I am able to open the camera as usual to take photos, and I found I can also can view and manipulate the camera roll. It was not possible to do this on past versions of iOS.

                This feels like a major privacy and safety issue. Anyone with physical access to a phone can view and delete someone's pictures. Abusers, government, anyone.

                I've reported it, but I'd appreciate boosts to help spread the word. And confirmation, of course, if you see the same thing.

                Editing to clarify: this seems like a sneaky unlock rather than open access to the camera. However, the behavior has changed from what I used to get in past versions of iOS.

                Edit #2: there is a way to require the Photos app (your camera roll) to require Face ID so you don't see this behavior. I believe this should be the default.

                #Privacy #Security #Apple

                vito@floof.shV This user is from outside of this forum
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                vito@floof.sh
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                #7

                @Emily Cannot reproduce, unless you have specific reproduction steps.

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                • emily@infosec.exchangeE emily@infosec.exchange

                  Anyone else on #iPhone #iOS 26.5 (latest)?

                  I found a privacy bug.

                  When the phone is locked, I am able to open the camera as usual to take photos, and I found I can also can view and manipulate the camera roll. It was not possible to do this on past versions of iOS.

                  This feels like a major privacy and safety issue. Anyone with physical access to a phone can view and delete someone's pictures. Abusers, government, anyone.

                  I've reported it, but I'd appreciate boosts to help spread the word. And confirmation, of course, if you see the same thing.

                  Editing to clarify: this seems like a sneaky unlock rather than open access to the camera. However, the behavior has changed from what I used to get in past versions of iOS.

                  Edit #2: there is a way to require the Photos app (your camera roll) to require Face ID so you don't see this behavior. I believe this should be the default.

                  #Privacy #Security #Apple

                  ericm@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  ericm@infosec.exchange
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                  #8

                  @Emily I see the bug on my 14. Open the camera from the lock screen, then click on the photo roll button on the lower left.

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                  • supersluether@tech.lgbtS supersluether@tech.lgbt

                    @tk51688 @Emily iPhone 15 with iOS 26.5 here, and it works as expected. I only see the full camera roll if FaceID unlocked the phone from the lock screen, otherwise I can only view/delete the pictures/videos taken from the lock screen.

                    benaveling@infosec.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    benaveling@infosec.exchange
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                    #9

                    Same. I can open the camera without unlocking and take a photo/s and then open the camera roll and it includes only photo/s taken since opening the camera and nothing older. Which is the same behaviour I remember from before upgrading.
                    I assume all the people boosting this tried it and were able to reproduce it, wouldn't want to think mastodonians would be boosting something like this without trying it. 🤔
                    FWIW, the first time I tried to reproduce this, I thought I had! 🫣 , but no, I'd accidentally unlocked my own phone, oops.
                    @SuperSluether @tk51688 @Emily

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                    • emily@infosec.exchangeE emily@infosec.exchange

                      Anyone else on #iPhone #iOS 26.5 (latest)?

                      I found a privacy bug.

                      When the phone is locked, I am able to open the camera as usual to take photos, and I found I can also can view and manipulate the camera roll. It was not possible to do this on past versions of iOS.

                      This feels like a major privacy and safety issue. Anyone with physical access to a phone can view and delete someone's pictures. Abusers, government, anyone.

                      I've reported it, but I'd appreciate boosts to help spread the word. And confirmation, of course, if you see the same thing.

                      Editing to clarify: this seems like a sneaky unlock rather than open access to the camera. However, the behavior has changed from what I used to get in past versions of iOS.

                      Edit #2: there is a way to require the Photos app (your camera roll) to require Face ID so you don't see this behavior. I believe this should be the default.

                      #Privacy #Security #Apple

                      emily@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                      emily@infosec.exchange
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                      #10

                      To reproduce:

                      1. Enable Face ID.
                      2. Do not unlock the phone. Only swipe to open the camera. Do this with your face visible to the front-facing camera.
                      3. Check your camera roll.

                      Unlocking the camera did not unlock access to past pictures in prior versions of iOS.

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                      • emily@infosec.exchangeE emily@infosec.exchange

                        Anyone else on #iPhone #iOS 26.5 (latest)?

                        I found a privacy bug.

                        When the phone is locked, I am able to open the camera as usual to take photos, and I found I can also can view and manipulate the camera roll. It was not possible to do this on past versions of iOS.

                        This feels like a major privacy and safety issue. Anyone with physical access to a phone can view and delete someone's pictures. Abusers, government, anyone.

                        I've reported it, but I'd appreciate boosts to help spread the word. And confirmation, of course, if you see the same thing.

                        Editing to clarify: this seems like a sneaky unlock rather than open access to the camera. However, the behavior has changed from what I used to get in past versions of iOS.

                        Edit #2: there is a way to require the Photos app (your camera roll) to require Face ID so you don't see this behavior. I believe this should be the default.

                        #Privacy #Security #Apple

                        furrybeta@shark.communityF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @Emily For what it’s worth, on my 13 Pro, running 26.5:

                        From the lock screen, I can take a picture (as is normal), but it only shows the camera roll from that particular session. It doesn’t show me my saved camera roll, and if I close the camera app and reopen it, I don’t see the photos just taken. I need to login and go the the full camera roll.

                        Edit to correct iOS version

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                        • emily@infosec.exchangeE emily@infosec.exchange

                          Anyone else on #iPhone #iOS 26.5 (latest)?

                          I found a privacy bug.

                          When the phone is locked, I am able to open the camera as usual to take photos, and I found I can also can view and manipulate the camera roll. It was not possible to do this on past versions of iOS.

                          This feels like a major privacy and safety issue. Anyone with physical access to a phone can view and delete someone's pictures. Abusers, government, anyone.

                          I've reported it, but I'd appreciate boosts to help spread the word. And confirmation, of course, if you see the same thing.

                          Editing to clarify: this seems like a sneaky unlock rather than open access to the camera. However, the behavior has changed from what I used to get in past versions of iOS.

                          Edit #2: there is a way to require the Photos app (your camera roll) to require Face ID so you don't see this behavior. I believe this should be the default.

                          #Privacy #Security #Apple

                          partridge@outerheaven.clubP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @Emily I’m only able to view the pictures I took in that session. Not previously taken pictures. Are you able to see previous photos and have you made sure you’re not face-IDing into your phone?

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                          • partridge@outerheaven.clubP partridge@outerheaven.club

                            @Emily I’m only able to view the pictures I took in that session. Not previously taken pictures. Are you able to see previous photos and have you made sure you’re not face-IDing into your phone?

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                            @partridge I am sure I'm not unlocking my phone.

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                            • emily@infosec.exchangeE emily@infosec.exchange

                              @partridge I am sure I'm not unlocking my phone.

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                              @Emily I get the big “no photos or videos” 🤔🤔🤔

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                              • partridge@outerheaven.clubP partridge@outerheaven.club

                                @Emily I get the big “no photos or videos” 🤔🤔🤔

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                                @partridge Do you have your Photos app set to require Face ID to view?

                                If I do that, I don't see the past photos. I think that behavior used to be default, and I think it should be again.

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                                • emily@infosec.exchangeE emily@infosec.exchange

                                  To reproduce:

                                  1. Enable Face ID.
                                  2. Do not unlock the phone. Only swipe to open the camera. Do this with your face visible to the front-facing camera.
                                  3. Check your camera roll.

                                  Unlocking the camera did not unlock access to past pictures in prior versions of iOS.

                                  david@cosocial.caD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @Emily I think you’re still unlocking the phone by looking it up I tried with the phone facing away from my face but still visible, and I couldn’t access the roll.

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                                  • supersluether@tech.lgbtS supersluether@tech.lgbt

                                    @tk51688 @Emily iPhone 15 with iOS 26.5 here, and it works as expected. I only see the full camera roll if FaceID unlocked the phone from the lock screen, otherwise I can only view/delete the pictures/videos taken from the lock screen.

                                    emily@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @SuperSluether @tk51688

                                    It's now configurable to require Face ID to view your Photos app. It used to be a default that you had to use Face ID, instead of the other way around. And I think that it should be private by default.

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                                    • benaveling@infosec.exchangeB benaveling@infosec.exchange

                                      Same. I can open the camera without unlocking and take a photo/s and then open the camera roll and it includes only photo/s taken since opening the camera and nothing older. Which is the same behaviour I remember from before upgrading.
                                      I assume all the people boosting this tried it and were able to reproduce it, wouldn't want to think mastodonians would be boosting something like this without trying it. 🤔
                                      FWIW, the first time I tried to reproduce this, I thought I had! 🫣 , but no, I'd accidentally unlocked my own phone, oops.
                                      @SuperSluether @tk51688 @Emily

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                                      @BenAveling

                                      It's now configurable to require Face ID to view your Photos app. It used to be a default that you had to use Face ID, instead of the other way around. And I think that it should be private by default.

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                                      • david@cosocial.caD david@cosocial.ca

                                        @Emily I think you’re still unlocking the phone by looking it up I tried with the phone facing away from my face but still visible, and I couldn’t access the roll.

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                                        @david

                                        I'm not doing the action to unlock my phone, though, I'm opening the camera with my face in front of it. Two different gestures. But the phone is taking it as an unlock.

                                        It's now configurable to require Face ID to view your Photos app. It used to be a default that you had to use Face ID, instead of the other way around. And I think that it should be private by default.

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                                          @david

                                          I'm not doing the action to unlock my phone, though, I'm opening the camera with my face in front of it. Two different gestures. But the phone is taking it as an unlock.

                                          It's now configurable to require Face ID to view your Photos app. It used to be a default that you had to use Face ID, instead of the other way around. And I think that it should be private by default.

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                                          @Emily Swiping up isn’t about unlocking your phone, it’s about getting to the Home Screen. Looking at your phone unlocks it.

                                          To test, hold the phone at an angle and push the sleep switch to wake it. You’ll see a lock icon. Look at the phone with no other actions and you’ll see the lock icon disappear.

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