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The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

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  • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

    The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

    intaglio_dragon@furry.engineerI This user is from outside of this forum
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    @hannah Perhaps I'm just missing something obvious here, but...isn't the whole point of conducting surveys to gather data from people? If the only entities being surveyed are A.I. agents that mimic human speech and which could be programmed to say anything, how is it meaningful?

    It seems as meaningful to me as "Our survey data says 95% of people approve our product. We surveyed 1000 people whom we paid $100 each to say positive things about us."

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    • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

      The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

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      @hannah next up: instead of spending budget money on organizing elections, we'll just run 400 millions of AI agents, give them personas representing the US demographic, and ask them who would they vote for.

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      • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

        The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

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        #40

        @hannah "tantalizing" ain't the word.

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        • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

          The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

          wollman@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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          #41

          @hannah Sounds like someone read about the bootstrap without actually understanding why it works.

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          • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

            The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

            kittenflare@transfem.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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            @hannah@posts.rat.pictures what the actual fucking fuck? So you "simulate" a poll and it generates whatever bullshit outcome you ask for

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            • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

              The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

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              #43

              @hannah That's a lot of words ot say: we gonna make shit up

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              • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

                The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

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                @hannah "Four out of five LLMs recommend Trident sugarless gum."

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                • unlofl@mstdn.socialU unlofl@mstdn.social

                  @hannah Wait, I've got a better idea that will still cut their polling costs in half: we survey people but with half the standard sample size, then we run it all through a photo copier and tabulate the results. We'll get the normal sample size and accuracy!

                  Also, copy machines use a lot less power than AI, its win-win!

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                  #45

                  @unlofl @hannah better yet, ask bob, and duplicate his answer sample_size times!

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                  • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

                    The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

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                    #46

                    @hannah Lol, I often quote the brilliant idea that using these generative machines is like using a forklift to lift weights at the gym. But here they are actually doing it 😄

                    ”We discovered a way to save 100% of the sciences and research costs: we will simply not do any of it!”

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                    • intaglio_dragon@furry.engineerI intaglio_dragon@furry.engineer

                      @hannah Perhaps I'm just missing something obvious here, but...isn't the whole point of conducting surveys to gather data from people? If the only entities being surveyed are A.I. agents that mimic human speech and which could be programmed to say anything, how is it meaningful?

                      It seems as meaningful to me as "Our survey data says 95% of people approve our product. We surveyed 1000 people whom we paid $100 each to say positive things about us."

                      funkula@goblin.campF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #47

                      @Intaglio_Dragon @hannah I wanna hang out with the people who took the hundred dollars and were still like "fuck you, your product sucks"

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