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  • derickr@phpc.socialD derickr@phpc.social

    @ojensen @briankrebs Do you even remember them all? I certainly don't.

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    wrote last edited by
    #59

    @derickr @briankrebs most of them, since they're in a big list in my email provider. Doubtless there's a few that I've deleted, though, so to be safe I'll need to add a bunch of maybes to the list.

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    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

      Just a moment...

      favicon

      (www.privacyinternational.org)

      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

      realgene@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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      realgene@hachyderm.io
      wrote last edited by
      #60

      @briankrebs
      Why didn't they just require everyone get chipped also?

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      • mkj@social.mkj.earthM This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #61

        @tdr @independentpen Besides, tit-for-tat international relations rarely works.

        If the EU should do anything in response to something like this, make it a reminder that sharing that information without the explicit and informed consent of the data subject is strictly prohibited under the GDPR. And that that includes a third country resident sharing such data as relates to EU data subjects.

        @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs

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        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

          We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

          "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

          "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

          PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

          -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

          -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
          ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
          -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
          -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
          -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
          -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
          -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

          Just a moment...

          favicon

          (www.privacyinternational.org)

          The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
          must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

          Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

          vekkq@social.vivaldi.netV This user is from outside of this forum
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          vekkq@social.vivaldi.net
          wrote last edited by
          #62

          @briankrebs the 2028 Olympics in LA will be fun. No visitors and no athletes from outside.

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          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

            We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

            "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

            "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

            PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

            -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

            -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
            ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
            -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
            -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
            -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
            -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
            -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

            Just a moment...

            favicon

            (www.privacyinternational.org)

            The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
            must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

            Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

            knud@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote last edited by
            #63

            @briankrebs

            They are only forced if they continue to wanting to travel to the US.

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            • hlunke@darmstadt.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #64

              @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs

              only on politicians

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              • knud@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote last edited by
                #65

                @AAKL @briankrebs

                We discussed that today – there are two other countries involved, we just have to move the US games north or south...

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #66

                  @tdr @independentpen @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs This. Cubed.

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                  • realgene@hachyderm.ioR realgene@hachyderm.io

                    @briankrebs
                    Why didn't they just require everyone get chipped also?

                    frieke72@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    frieke72@mastodon.social
                    wrote last edited by
                    #67

                    @RealGene guess a tattoo with number will he the next proposal
                    @briankrebs

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                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                      @briankrebs

                      I'm British, white, male, aged 60-ish.

                      Prior to February 2016 I typically visited the USA 3 times a year for up to six weeks.

                      Since February 2016 I have visited the USA twice in a decade, for a total of 10 days.

                      Entering the USA as a foreigner, with a Republican POTUS in the White House, *never* felt safe, but under Trump it looks diabolically dangerous. (And to a glance I resemble "one of them": I'm not female or dark-skinned.)

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #68

                      @cstross @briankrebs

                      When I go to visit my Canadian in laws I can see the Olympic Peninsula and Mount Baker across the Juan de Fuca Straight. That's plenty close enough for me.

                      After what I called The Orange Emperor on his racist friend's hellsite they won't let me in anyway.

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                      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                        We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                        "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                        "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                        PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                        -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                        -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                        ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                        -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                        -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                        -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                        -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                        -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                        Just a moment...

                        favicon

                        (www.privacyinternational.org)

                        The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                        must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                        Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

                        bongolian@mstdn.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        bongolian@mstdn.social
                        wrote last edited by
                        #69

                        @briankrebs In summary, if this change goes into effect, when leaving the US, don't plan on coming back.

                        #totalitariannism #US #censorship

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                          martinvermeer@fediscience.org
                          wrote last edited by
                          #70

                          @tdr @independentpen @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs Also, tourism is an export product. If they want to sabotage their export to us, that doesn't force us to do an equally dumb thing in reverse.

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                          • gnaddrig@mastodon.socialG gnaddrig@mastodon.social

                            @troy @briankrebs

                            "Whose going to remember all of that anyways?"

                            And who is going to check/verify any of this, and how?

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #71

                            @gnaddrig @troy @briankrebs shitty AI to summarise it...incorrectly of course. All those data centres aren't just for CSAM...

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                            • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                              We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                              "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                              "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                              PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                              -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                              -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                              ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                              -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                              -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                              -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                              -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                              -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                              Just a moment...

                              favicon

                              (www.privacyinternational.org)

                              The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                              must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                              Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

                              cs@mastodon.sdf.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              cs@mastodon.sdf.org
                              wrote last edited by
                              #72

                              @briankrebs I could not with any confidence give anyone all the emails I have used last two or three years.

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                              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                @briankrebs

                                I'm British, white, male, aged 60-ish.

                                Prior to February 2016 I typically visited the USA 3 times a year for up to six weeks.

                                Since February 2016 I have visited the USA twice in a decade, for a total of 10 days.

                                Entering the USA as a foreigner, with a Republican POTUS in the White House, *never* felt safe, but under Trump it looks diabolically dangerous. (And to a glance I resemble "one of them": I'm not female or dark-skinned.)

                                hypostase@bsd.networkH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                hypostase@bsd.network
                                wrote last edited by
                                #73

                                @cstross
                                My spouse, a US citizen, went home to visit family last year, and found themselves distinctly uncomfortable at the border. I don't think I've been back since we were married, also in 2016.
                                @briankrebs

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                                • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                  We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                  "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                  "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                  PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                  -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                  -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                  ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                  -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                  -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                  -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                  -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                  -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                  Just a moment...

                                  favicon

                                  (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                  The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                  must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                  Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

                                  bno@mindly.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #74

                                  @briankrebs A LOT of things will have to change in the US if I'm to ever set my foot on that continent again.
                                  At this point I'm not even sure the US will ever be able to win back the trust of many Europeans

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                                  • lazarou@mastodon.socialL lazarou@mastodon.social

                                    @gnaddrig @troy @briankrebs shitty AI to summarise it...incorrectly of course. All those data centres aren't just for CSAM...

                                    gnaddrig@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #75

                                    @Lazarou @troy @briankrebs
                                    Makes sense, facts don't matter to these people. It's not about finding out facts about anything but to show everyone who is the hammer and who the nail ..

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                                    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                      Just a moment...

                                      favicon

                                      (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                      koratex@urusai.social
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #76

                                      @briankrebs wait, thats awesome! that means they are still not capable of finding this out on theirselfes!

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #77

                                        @f800gecko @briankrebs I assume they will sample the DNA by amputating a toe? Will this be introduced in time for the World Cup?

                                        The EU has introduced biometric checks on entry last year, but this goes up a level.

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                                        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                          We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                          "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                          "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                          PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                          -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                          -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                          ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                          -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                          -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                          -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                          -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                          -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                          Just a moment...

                                          favicon

                                          (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                          The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                          must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                          Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #78

                                          @briankrebs it is morally indefensible to travel into the USSA at this point

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