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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running.

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  • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

    @tautology @briankrebs To be honest, if I *had* to go to US (like that would happen) it would be worth changing my name, getting a new passport in that uniquely rare name, and getting a totally dumb phone on a totally new number, and going as an "oldie" - or even not having a phone.

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    wrote last edited by
    #344

    @revk If you're so lucky as to be able to change your name at all (to my limited understanding it does not even compare between DE and UK for example)

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    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

      @ferricoxide there's an email address listed in the Federal Register entry: CBP_
      PRA@cbp.dhs.gov. Submissions have to include the OMB Control Number 1651-0111.

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      @briankrebs@infosec.exchange

      Email sent. Hopefully my submission was sufficiently-conformant that it won't end up on the discard-pile. Hopefully, it was adequately-expressive of my perceived personal impacts to actually mean something to whoever reads — though, I guess, at this point, that would be "whatever AI processes" — it.

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      • klefstadmyr@social.vivaldi.netK klefstadmyr@social.vivaldi.net

        @revk @auxonic I wonder if the Norwegian address @fuck.no is taken.

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        #346

        @klefstadmyr @auxonic % No match

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        • wink@chaos.socialW wink@chaos.social

          @revk If you're so lucky as to be able to change your name at all (to my limited understanding it does not even compare between DE and UK for example)

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          #347

          @wink In theory in UK my name is what I say it is.

          I cannot find much definitive stuff on legally holding multiple concurrent names, but that does happen to some extent I think in UK.

          We don't, in theory, have "legal name" as a concept in UK, but UK gov would love if we did, so some things sort of do.

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          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

            We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

            "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

            "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

            PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

            -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

            -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
            ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
            -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
            -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
            -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
            -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
            -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

            Just a moment...

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            The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
            must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

            Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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            wrote last edited by
            #348

            @briankrebs
            Will it be the same on the land border like Canada towards USA and USA towards Mexico? Some country requires data to quit the country.

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            • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

              We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

              "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

              "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

              PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

              -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

              -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
              ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
              -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
              -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
              -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
              -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
              -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

              Just a moment...

              favicon

              (www.privacyinternational.org)

              The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
              must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

              Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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              #349

              @briankrebs I guess it's time for me to up the rhetoric against this fascist regime we're living under. This is no longer the free country that we once had, but now it is a police state.  This treatment of people visiting this country is absolute proof of this.

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              • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                Just a moment...

                favicon

                (www.privacyinternational.org)

                The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                wrote last edited by
                #350

                @briankrebs I mean, it's not like *this* is suddenly the reason for me not to want to visit.

                Never been, never will. The act that these days they wouldn't let my trans ass in anyways is of no consequence.

                I'll continue to enjoy beautiful Canada, not to mention all the places in Europe I've already visited and will again in the future. Would love to see more of the world too, the USA can eat a dick though.

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                • not3ottersinacoat@mastodon.socialN not3ottersinacoat@mastodon.social

                  @briankrebs I mean, it's not like *this* is suddenly the reason for me not to want to visit.

                  Never been, never will. The act that these days they wouldn't let my trans ass in anyways is of no consequence.

                  I'll continue to enjoy beautiful Canada, not to mention all the places in Europe I've already visited and will again in the future. Would love to see more of the world too, the USA can eat a dick though.

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                  #351

                  @briankrebs The funny thing is I'm travelling a bit at the moment and can see the US side of the border out the window where I'm staying. I'll be sure to point my middle fingers in their direction next time I step outside.

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                  • floralia@jorts.horseF floralia@jorts.horse

                    @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs Then people who are escaping will have to find refuge outside Europe.

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                    @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs Remember when Europe refused to take Germany's Jews? What happened to them next?

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                    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                      Just a moment...

                      favicon

                      (www.privacyinternational.org)

                      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                      @briankrebs But but but - it's only supposed to take 22 minutes for a family! /s

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                      • whynotzoidberg@topspicy.socialW whynotzoidberg@topspicy.social

                        @Anneke I seriously doubt any old-guard Democrats like Newsom will remove this when it's in place.

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                        #354

                        @WhyNotZoidberg Yes 😞

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                        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                          We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                          "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                          "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                          PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                          -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                          -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                          ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                          -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                          -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                          -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                          -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                          -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                          Just a moment...

                          favicon

                          (www.privacyinternational.org)

                          The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                          must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                          Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                          @briankrebs There will be absolutely no f***ing way that I travel to the US under this kind of conditions... (already not long before but anyway).

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                          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                            We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                            "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                            "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                            PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                            -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                            -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                            ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                            -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                            -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                            -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                            -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                            -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                            Just a moment...

                            favicon

                            (www.privacyinternational.org)

                            The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                            must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                            Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                            @briankrebs
                            I'm glad I had the chance to visit the United States when it was still open to tourists. Too bad it's closed now.

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                            • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                              @briankrebs
                              I'm glad I had the chance to visit the United States when it was still open to tourists. Too bad it's closed now.

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                              @Em0nM4stodon @briankrebs I'm honestly sad that I will most likely never be able to visit New York City, which is the main place I would have loved to visit there.

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                                #358

                                @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs wouldn’t that help these people in validating their own imposed restrictions?

                                “See! They thought it such a good idea they can’t wait to follow our lead, copying what we did first.”

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                                  @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs making it that much harder for people to flee from the country

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                                  • farbel@mas.toF farbel@mas.to

                                    @briankrebs

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                                    @farbel @briankrebs Love this!

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                                    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                      Just a moment...

                                      favicon

                                      (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                      @briankrebs I don't at all understand that Federal Register link. Is it the wrong link? Or is it deliberately opaque?

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                                      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                        We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                        "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                        "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                        PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                        -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                        -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                        ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                        -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                        -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                        -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                        -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                        -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                        Just a moment...

                                        favicon

                                        (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                        The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                        must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                        Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                        @briankrebs I'm sure Disney and Vegas CEOs will be utterly thrilled.

                                        FWIW (Brit here) I decided not to travel to the US while the admin is in place immediately it won - The roadmap for Project 2025 was perfectly clear a year before that.

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                                        • gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafeG gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                          @briankrebs

                                          the "email addresses used in the last ten years" is ludicrous. I use catch-all email-addresses and hand out concocted addresses liberally. They expect me to remember every "joesblog@mydomain.example.com" address ever used?

                                          And every family-member's phone-number used? I barely remember my wife's phone-number let alone relatives I sporadically call via the phone.

                                          (I mean, the rest is pretty over-the-top too, so the whole "avoid the US" is good advice regardless, but some elements are nigh-impossible)

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                                          #363

                                          @gumnos @briankrebs does “email addresses used in the last ten years” include work / side gig?

                                          As an email administrator for multiple companies, this could literally be thousands of email addresses.

                                          I also suspect that lawyers for said companies would object to me listing things.

                                          There’s also the spam trap domains that I run that have wildcard email addresses.

                                          I could probably dump multiple megabytes -> gigabytes into their systems.

                                          Not that I would willingly give them shit.

                                          This is all about privacy invasion and social graph building for a BAD reason.

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