so if you want to subscribe to a vpn, and you were considering proton, maybe dont
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Gmail does not seem to require that requests are made lawfully: https://newrepublic.com/post/206088/homeland-security-67-year-old-us-citizen-criticized-email
Additionally, Gmail _can_ and will hand out the contents of emails which Proton cannot.
Regarding believing your email contents would be safe because you use Proton and send emails to Gmail I'm sorry - it's not victim blaming to point out bad OPSEC. It's like crashing a car because you didn't take the time to learn how brakes work.
@troed @Viss "hand out the contents of emails which Proton cannot" - OK let's not dive into if G should have obeyed a subponea... In both cases the accounts came under scrutiny because authorities _already knew_ email contents. Gmail would even have the benefit of not having payment info (also, cheaper).
(Btw. Proton can absolutely leak all your e-mails e.g. from the frontend they serve to you.)
"it's not victim blaming to point out bad OPSEC" - by this logic we shouldn't criticize charlatan doctors, because their patients should know medicine better? -
@Viss @bhhaskin @floriann "subscriber information received from the Swiss Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty Unit" - so the FBI basically asked the Swiss police, that got the data and forwarded it back under the umbrella of a long standing treaty between the countries/authrities. This should not be surprising at all btw, but somehow for many VPN customers it is.
@buherator @floriann @Viss @bhhaskin well crypto is also supported, here is their response from LI:
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@buherator @floriann @Viss @bhhaskin well crypto is also supported, here is their response from LI:
